Ok where was I.... ;D Was just looking at the title and realized I bought this thing over 3 years ago! Got it from Willie_B I do believe. I drove the piss out of it till I moved away from Tulsa a couple years back. Had started doing some things like painted the roof and fixed gutter rust, collected a bunch of panels for it, but life got in the way. Can't tell you guys how much I can't wait to haul it back to the east coast to really do something with it finally. Has a 1275cc engine with some long gears that hauled butt. My original plan was to paint it old english white, or maybe even that new pepper white, have the black roof, 10x6 wheels of some sort, and some red interior. Has 8.4 disc but will convert down to fit 10's, and still need to buy some floor pans and door skins. Here's a couple old pics I found in an email from when I purchased it.
That was a fun truck. As you said, it runs alot better than it looks. Would cruise at 70-75 without problem.
That was half the fun of driving the thing....since I had all sorts of overspray from the roof, combined with existing rust and bondo cracking off. Looked horrible, but drove like a raped ape. I took it to the hardware store a few time to haul lumber. Had it so loaded down every time I hit a bump in the road the steering got very "mushy". Just about did wheelies.
It had developed some pretty good holes in the floor, and I had some of the carpet pulled out for whatever reason. Had to drive across town after a snow storm to get somewhere, since my other transportation was a rwd race car that couldn't get up the street in snow. The hole in the floor let snow come blasting in there at high speed, and I kid you not it looked like one of those liquid xmas balls you shake around and the fake snow inside goes everywhere. That was me driving down the road. Not snowing outside, but inside the truck was a blizzard and white out conditions.
Bahahaha! Good story.....a raped ape.... hahaha!! :D
Still tossing and turning about colors in my head. I was thinking of maybe doing volcano orange, black roof/maybe stripes on the hood, wood and pickup arches and 12x6 deep dish, or go sportpack arches and 13x7 split rims. I also have a set of ralley lights for the front of the car I totally forgot about. What do you guys think would be a killer color combo?
This is an example of volcano orange.
wood and pickup arches
Step away from the keyboard.
Oh I know, but the sportpack look is appealing on a pickup for some reason to me.
Just hooked the tow bar up to the truck for the trip back on Sunday. Gave it a good look over to see what I need to do when I begin the restore. Its going to need floors front to back on both sides, A-panels, one door skin, the new hood I have, random patches and rear corners by the tail lights need redone. Both fenders and front end are about as rust free as you can get it, I was happy to see that since I couldn't remember if rust had started around the headlights and other spots. Looked like my gutter repairs and roof I painted years ago held up nicely. Had a few extra parts in the bed I had totally forgot about as well, which is always a nice surprise. So looks like the major back breaking work is going to be spent on those floors.
Hey 94! Do you have an idea what you are going to sell it for (if you are planning to) when you are done with the repairs? My dad mentioned to me the other day that he might want a mini pickup to use as a shop truck. My car draws a lot, I mean A LOT of attention to our store, people are always dropping in and asking about it and it usually leads to a few sales. I think that he wants something he can throw our logo onto the side and use it for promotional stuff/parts running/shop errands, you know. So basically I need to give him an idea of what a decent one would cost.
This truck won't be for sale unless I get some crazy offer. Like big time money, lol. Or if I really really need money.
I understand. ;) I'm the same way with my car, people ask me all the time how much I want for it. My response EVERY time is "How much do you have?" ;D
Yeah the pickup is my favorite mini. Eventually I'll keep a sedan for myself again too. I owned the MPI I just sold for the past 7 years or more.
Here she is after the trip back, beaten and defeated lol.
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;D Just happen to have a fender, headlight, front window, and a nice black set of 10" wheels with 007 tires that would look good on that truck.
With your knowledge and my parts WE could have a nice looking truck to share. I could have it for 6 months and you could have it for 6 months.
;D ;D ;D
oh and a master cylinder and front grill also. And a black bumper. WOW sounds like I have a parts house..
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Haha, I think those are negotiating parts for the red mini. I have both wings/fenders, but do you have a brand new front end? I think when you talk to your bank and they approve the appraisel idea and you buy the red car, when I deliver it would be a good time for me to pick up these parts I need. ;D
Batman! You have a black bumper? You wouldn't happen to have a SET of black bumpers do you? If so I am interested :)
Seems my car is gonna be blacked out. Black car, black grille, black wheels, now for some black bumpers! It's gonna be stealthy. Lol
;D Say it isn't so.... one of them has a split mounting hole and another may be broken off? I'll pull them out and look them over.
$8500.00 or I'll trade even for a red mini with black stripes
;D
Batman check your messages.
LMAO! I think there are a little to many zeros on that price! ;)
But seriously, look them over and let me know your price. I've spent waaaayyy to much money lately, but I REALLY want some black bumpers.
481- Just don't drive it in the dark, or a really cloudy day. Folks will be able to hear it, but not see it coming, haha.
I was wondering how the pick up faired. He doesnt look as bad as I thought you had described. I sure dont envy you on those floorboards though.
Spent a little bit of time today with the pickup evaluating the floors and deciding what panels to add to my wishlist. Ripped the rest of the carpet out and decided to add a new cross member to the list of things I need. Probably easier with it out of my way when putting in the new floors anyways. Hard to tell right now if the corners of the rear subframe mount panel is solid or not, but looked very dingy back there. A screw driver didn't poke through, but won't know for sure untill I start disassembling more.
Are you going to take both subframes off on this one and give it the full treatment?
Yeah this one is getting the works. Everything is coming off. Matter of fact I'm trying to figure out which wire harness is the one I need for the standard 3 gauge pod, so that the electricals hook up properly to the speedo. Anyone have any suggestions? I should have a speedo in my box of parts somewhere but planning to go with the magnolia oil, temp, and speedo gauges, so will be buying all new. Also need to source the pod itself, don't think I have one of those laying around. All in all I have an enormous list of parts I need or want, so its going to be awhile before its complete. Slowly but surely.
Just got done putting together my master list of parts. I'm looking at over 4 grand worth of stuff not including shipping or tax from the UK. Or paint and body work :o
I know how you feel. My wish list on MM is over 5K, and it doesn't even have the fun stuff like wheels and chrome. One of the reasons my mini is going to be a rat so to say. I'll be happy just to get it running and stopping. :)
The suspension added up fairly quickly, then all the little new things I need or want. Panels to finish it off are around a grand after shipping, then figure in wheels and tires. However when it is done one of these years lol, it will be a brand new truck.
I did get the brand new front end panel for the pickup, a new windshield, and a brake master cylinder since I left NC. Next step is getting it shipped here once I get the house thing situated.
I've got a new pick-up bed floor, heel board and fillers and floor pans with sills waiting. But the van is on the rotisserie with the same set of parts waiting for welding. I just need time and motivation.
Only major panels left for me to order are the floors. I'm hoping this year, but I have a feeling I'm going to be busier than usual. So long as I can get the truck here and at least start on the areas I'd feel good about it.
Need pics Dan I havent seen the truck in awhile.
No real latest pics, but this would be it. I did get a new front end panel, so whenever we get this house, I'll have it shipped out here and try to get something done to it.
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Sad little guy. Just waiting his turn for some TLC. :(
Quote from: Willie_B on March 07, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
Sad little guy. Just waiting his turn for some TLC. :(
I even remember you saying when I bought it "glad you're buying it cause I'll know you'll do something with it"...4 years ago. ;D Ah well, I've done other minis since then, just waiting for the proper moment to strike on this one I guess.
Quote from: 94touring on March 07, 2010, 12:35:41 PM
No real latest pics, but this would be it. I did get a new front end panel, so whenever we get this house, I'll have it shipped out here and try to get something done to it.
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Did you get the regular pickup front panel or just a panel from a sedan?
Panel from a sedan like whats on it right now. I'm not a huge fan of the original front panels for pickups.
I have been wondering how hard it is to cut out the front panel on my pickup and use it for easier access to the motor by using quick release bolts.
Yeah makes it tricky to change the oil filter and take things like the starter off with the non removable grill. I guess if you did cut it out, you'd have to do a good job, replace it with a chrome grill and chrome surrounds to hide the cut?
Have you seen anybody cut it out and still use the original grill and not a chrome one? Or would that just look plain nasty?
I have a feeling it would look nasty. I was just looking at your front to visualize how to maybe do it, and I'd think you'd pretty much have to use chrome surrounds to cover the cuts.
94touring... you said you were from/in Tulsa. Any used parts places around there?
I'm considering a similar pickup, but needs at least an engine/trans. I'm in Bolivia, but I import 3 or 4 40 ft containers a month from Tulsa, so it is a convenient ship point.
That's where I got the front suspension for my Corvair restoration.
I'm sure there is but not that I'm familiar with. My buddy John is a member on here and he may chime in.
Gets picked up in the morning! Should be here around the 13th the guy said.
Its officially here and in my garage 4.gif I got a good look at the floors while it was on top of the truck that hauled it here, talk about some rust. Pieces were falling off while we were getting it down. I guess the guy got pulled by the DOT on his way out here, but they just wanted to take pictures of it!
Ok started spraying pb blaster to free up bolts that will need to come off and started taking things apart.
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looks like there will a a lot of work ahead....
Started taking the air chisel to the front end to break it loose. Whoever "restored" the truck before also decided to weld on the lower door hinge on the right side, as well as the seam cover in a spot, kinda funny.
Todays work, a half hour to break a few things loose. I guess my doors weren't coming off, there are 3 layers of A-panel! Lots of thick welds in the scuttle area. I should have good weigh reduction by time I'm done.
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Got the metal off the right side finally. Took a lot of air chisel. It would appear the last person to repanel the truck simply put new panels over old. Also for those of you wondering how to easily remove undercoat, run the air chisel over it and the force/vibrations knock it right off. I was pleased to find some perfectly shiney paint under some of it and no rust.
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Thought I'd give a test fit with the current panels I have. Looks like things match up pretty well.
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Damn you work fast. You make me feel like a chump. Actually I should be able to order some new front sheet metal in a couple of weeks. What brand/supplier do you recommend. I want panels that will be the easiest. I am not against spending more to lessen the hassle when it comes time to fit them on.
Nice work, BTW! Keep it up and keep putting pics on. I sooo need to get moving on mine.
I just about order everything from minisport. I have a wishlist I'm about to purchase that includes my floor and the inner A-panels and a handful of other parts and its SO much cheaper than ordering from the states. It was 1.58 to the dollar the other day too.
If you don't mind spending the extra money get the genuine panels, they should fit with less hassle. In my case these panels are reproductions. A few years ago when I redid the wings on my MPI I tried using what I have fitted on my truck in that picture and they just wouldn't line up right, so I used a 2nd set, which I'm pretty certain were knockoffs too. Since I'm taking all the panels off I have a little more room to play and tweak, but actually for whatever reason they seem to line up really good on my truck. I think its just hit or miss with panels sometimes.
Anyways I just popped the right wing off while waiting for some filler to dry on some airplane parts...back to work.
Left side off.
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Wow!!
you got more done in a week than i did with my other shell in years!! 50.gif
:D Things may come to a drastic hault when I start tearing up floors though.
One last thing before I call it a night.
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Continued removal of parts.
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Interior gutted.
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What's your plan of attack for the floors?
The tunnel is in good shape, and looks like I may only need each end where the rear subby attaches. So what I planned was do one half of the floor at a time. That will keep it from flexing and twisting around on me. I will be buying full length panels with inner cill, then putting the outer cills on at a later date. The cross member will be replaced too. Tried getting the rear subby off last night but a few of the bolts are being difficult. Letting the tail gate hinges soak too, couldn't get them off either. Once I get the rear subby off I can analyize how bad the attach points are and how rusted up the bed is and its cross member.
Well had to drill out the bolts holding the tailgate on. Also was able to drill out one side attaching the hinges to the bed, but the other side I had no sucess with the drill. After breaking a few drill bits I decided to cut the bastard out. Was able to cut a slot in whatever kind of bolt with no head was in there and stick a chisel in there and spin it with the drill, like a big screw driver. However it wouldn't back out, just spins. ARG... 50.gif
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8.gif Maybe the captive nut underneath has broken loose allowing it to spin?
More rust, no surprise really.
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Hey, if it were easy, you'd be bored! I'm getting close to scoring some new metal for my Mini. Are you still using your HF flux core welder?
Yeah still using the HF welder.
Had a little time today to patch up an inner wing and also tear into the rear corner. I'll be buying a metal brake soon as I'll have lots of fab work to do for this rear end.
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Anybody want to guess what I'll be fabbing with the metal brake? Or at least trying to fab up ;D This is me practicing to get a feel for it.
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The bottom of the bed?
You got it, plus the bed itself is going to need some big time patch work in areas. Rather than buying mega expensive truck bed panels and tearing the whole thing up I think I can get a dead match now.
Ok, got one section cut out and a piece ready to go in. Severe rot and then some! Good news is each end of the bed and some of the cross member I can leave in place. The middle is really rusted up though.
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Couldn't stop, so did this much more tonight. Did I mention metal brakes kick ass?
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Another thing I may be changing out is the bed floor toward the cab, since it was bastadized at some point with a bed from some other kind of truck. Look at this and note the difference.
Coolio! What kind of metal brake did you end up getting?
Harbor Freight man! 30" on sale for $50. There's no way I could fab up a bed patch that matches or the couple sections of x-brace I need without it. Beats spending $200 on a new x-brace and I think $500 for bed panels, not to mention the labor involved tearing it all up and putting it back in, then hoping you don't distort the truck. There are going to be a handful of other applications in the rear that it will come in handy, as well as making new brackets for the inner A-panels unless they come with new ones.
I'd say this is 95% acurate. Not half bad, everything lined up real nice.
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Looks awesome!!!
Well my auto darkening welding helmet decided to stop auto darkening, so gotta get a new one before I continue patching that right side of the bed and wheel well. Took apart a seat to prep for recovering. I've been tossing ideas back and forth over interior and think I'm going to go with stone beige seats w/ black piping, stone beige door cards, burr dash and steering wheel, black upper and lower dash, black carpet. Color scheme for the body is still volcano and white/stone beige roof. At least thats the plan as of this week.
Placed a good sized order from minisport today. Floors and various other panels and items are on the way. Spent so much I even got a free IPOD 4.gif
Working around the rear valance and lip from the bed. It was badly rusted and the last person to replace the valance had huge nasty welds. So it was time to use the metal brake again...
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And done cleaning up the lines. Huge improvement over the sloppy weld job and rusted lip.
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Just got word a huge box full of panels arrived. Won't be home till next week and then limited time to work on it till I ship off again.
All sorts of cool stuff to play with. 4.gif
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I am watching this project carefully. I am in the middle of a similar challenge.
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Oh wow, very comparable floors! What are your plans for that rear load area and cross member?
I'll be trying to do a little here and there on my truck over the next month. I have tons of studying in preperation for work so can't get too carried away or involved with it. I started fiddling with getting the inner and outer A-panels lined up to see what I need to do. I may go ahead and try to finish what I started on the rear valence before doing the Apanels.
Got the right A-panel and scuttle welded into place. Fitted the inner A-panel but doing some patch work before I can weld it into place. So far so good, all the holes align, and wing fits up against things flush too. Pictures to follow once I get the inner A-panel on.
Dan,
I had the good fortune of living in Europe a while so I bought nnew bed floors for my van and pickup while I was there. And then shipped them back with my furniture. Here is the van floor with a picture of it tacked in place. I have new wheel arches floor pans like yours and the rear (is it heel?) panel. I got off on my son's car before I got all the pieces installed. When I was cross measureing for alignment I was abot 3/8" off and I haven't gone back to finally fit and tack everything. Wish you were closer so I could drop by and see your progress.
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Alright finished up some patch work where the inner A-panel butts up against. Couple pictures showing how things line up. Threw some bolts through the A-panels to show they line up as well. Before I weld on the wing I need to clean up behind it and throw on some primer. Not only did I paint between the A-panels but I sprayed them heavily with grease, figured it wouldn't hurt for rust protection.
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Patching and prepping.
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I've been using a high temp paint under where the spot welds are going to help prevent fires and give rust protection. Seems to work.
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Wing on and happy with the lines.
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I'm confused Dan. You said and it looked like you painted the surfaces where you are welding. I thoght they had to be clean or done with weld through primer. And if I understand the timing of the posts, it doesn't look like it had been painted in the pics I think are after the welding. But really nice job anyway. I do oxy acetelene really well but I need your (and Cranium's) mig skills. I'll be practicisng soon on my van. And I've got a couple variations on spot welders to try.
What I did here was primer/high temp paint and then weld. However I don't have a spot welder, so I clamp things down, drill holes, and then weld in the holes. That gives me a spot to weld without the paint interferring and allows me to have paint between and behind any welded surfaces. If you look closely you can see a dozen or more spot welds along that wing in the gutter. In my mind I feel better knowing behind some areas that I'm welding (under the scuttle and splash panel below it for example) the paint isn't burning away leaving metal exposed to moisture after the welding process. Its pretty much impossible to paint them once they're welded. Just think how many bubbled up scuttles you've seen. Both sides I cut off were only primered with surface rust present. Same goes for part of the floor x-member. I actually cut a couple sections from it to recylce metal for patches and no paint from the factory, just mild surface rust to rot in areas. I'm spraying grease on as many hidden areas as I go along also as another rust preventative. Guess I could use waxoil, but works just as well.
By the way you're lucky to have a whole load floor for you van! Looks like a PITA to get installed true though. Regarding welders, I use a cheapo harbor freight mig. Not the prettiest but gets the job done. Figure the majority of things you're welding you end up grinding down and prepping anyways. For sheet metal its more than enough. Anything real thin and its a struggle to not burn holes on the low setting.
This afternoons work. Have a lot of cleaning yet to do on the inner wing but got things test fitted to make sure I can proceed. Everything looks the way it should.
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Started tinkering with the rear subby. At first I took a wire wheel to it but realized it was going to take more effort than I wanted to put into it to take the rust off. So let the electrolysis begin. Made a tub from some rubber mat I had laying around, took some rebar and welded it into a square, placed it in the baking soda water, hooked up the battery charger and I'll let it sit for a day or two doing its thing. For those of you unfamliar with this, the bubbles are a result of the electrolysis eating away the rust. After its done it will have black oxide on there and I can easily wire brush it off and paint.
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Ok here's about 18 hours worth of sitting. I still need to flip it over and do the other side and position my positive charged bar near some outer areas to finish it off, but the results are very pleasing. Tons of scale brushed off with zero effort. I hosed it down and more fell off, in fact some paint came off too exposing the shiney metal you see in the photos. Gotta remove the suspension obviously and a go over once with the wire wheel to remove any oxide it will be ready for paint.
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Another day of sitting in the brew. As you can see tons of crap is washing off.
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Done with the electrolysis and time to hit it with a wire wheel on the drill to clean it up. Spraying some primer as I go to keep it protected for now. Doesn't take long for the surface rust to show its face after sitting in water. I have a rather large pile of rust and undercoat that I swept up after this project.
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I've not heard of this process. This is really slick. Tell us more!!!!!! The brew make-up, electrode placement, etc. I have a whitch's hat and wooden paddle I can use while the process works. Does it require a pinch of eye of newt? I'll keep it away from my broomstick parking area.
Lol :D No pinches of newts required. The best part about this method of rust removal is its cheap and easy. You'll need water, baking or washing soda (sodium carbonate), metal rod or rods, and battery charger or chargers. There is probably a specific ratio of sodium carbonate to water, but for this project I just dumped enough in till the water was white in color. Attach black ground to rusty metal and red positive to the metal rod or rods of choice. If I wasn't lazy I probably would have bought a plastic tub to completely submerge the subby in and used a couple chargers with my rebar designed around all edges a little more effiecently. You let it sit for a good 24-48 hours doing its thing. I flipped it a couple times and moved the rebar to the edges a few times to do its magic. It also loosened up all the random undercoat which to me is a miracle. After its said and done there will be black oxide present which will need to be wire wheel/brushed off down to bare metal. This method comes in handy for at least 2 scenerios...first if the part is rusty so bad that its just going to take forever to use the wire wheel and can save you time and hassle and two if your rusty parts don't fit in your sandblast cabinet if you have access to one. I have a blast cabinet which I'll use the small parts on but for this subby the electrolysis really saved me a lot of physical work. Rather than spending 2 or 3 days of removing the rust with my drill I just let it sit in the water and then spend a couple hours cleaning it off and painting it.
Hmmm...I may have to give this a go when I get to the subs. Looking at the front, it definitely needs a little TLC. At least it seems solid.
What type of paint did you use on the subby???? I am going down and getting mine from pops on Sat. so I can actually work on them. I need them in my way so I say to myself get them done and out of your way!! Guido told me about some rust stuff he found at Ace Hardware, it's called Ospho, and it is for after you get done blasting or just for bare metal to keep it from rusting. I picked up a small thing of it to see how it works. Supposed to keep things from rusting ever! I plan on soaking my subbys in it for a while, so it gets into the cracks etc.
As of right now its just primered with a rust protective primer. I was thinking of doing BC/CL with some leftover black paint I have, but I may just rattle can rustoleum on it and call it good.
Next time I'm in ACE I'll look for that Ospho stuff, sounds like something I could use.
Looking good. Your pick up is going to be sweet whenit's done, and done correctly. I need to start working on my 63 pickup shell that i picked up two months ago in Arizona. Keep up the good work.
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Cool where in AZ did you find that? Work has kept me busy lately so going to be awhile before I get a lot more done on mine.
I bought it in Chandler AZ. I will update it with pics in my shutter fly account. I just received a heritage certificate on the truck. It has a left hand drive, floor push button starter. All I got was the shell, and two subframes. I will be selling my black truck soon, since I can't find somebody to trade for an elf.
Finished up the rear subby this afternoon. Went with rattle can gloss black rustoleum. Also primered it with rust protective primer.
Dried and shiney. Can't wait till I order the sport suspension kit and have one assemblied piece out of this.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=998)
what type of bushes are you going with Poly? Rubber, Nylon??? I need to get some and can't decide! I have rubber on the S.
I'm probably going with Poly. Not exactly sure how big of a difference I can expect really.
Quote from: 94touring on February 17, 2011, 01:42:06 PM
Dried and shiney. Can't wait till I order the sport suspension kit and have one assemblied piece out of this.
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you'll get all excited once you get the subframe all back together. I know i did. i put everything i can back on and am happy with the result. should hopefully put mine back in the car this weekend. but then again, you never know what will come up.
What type of suspesnsion have you decided on? cones, hydraulic or springs? I went with the Minitastic Road/race springs. can't wait to see how it handles as the cones that were originally on it were old & stuffed.
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I have considered springs, but will probably go with competition rubber cones. Though the springs look pretty sexy on there. Also on the list is 36pt adjustable GAZ shocks, adjustable tie rods, negative camber arms, and hi-los of course.
I have a set of blue springs to go back instead of the cones. No hi-lo's or anything else, just stock stuff. The woody will be for cruising. Any real need for hi-los?? I got a great deal on the blue springs, cheaper than any cones I couldve bought. Just wondering.
Where did you get your springs? It actually may be the same price either way and the springs last longer, perhaps I'll give them a try. Not sure if I'd want the street setup or the fast road springs. I need to read some reviews I suppose. Opinions?
Had hi los on a couple cars and took advantage of them, and will certainly lower the truck to my liking as well.
The springs have a reputation of almost requiring the use of some form of hi-lo instead of the stock trumpet. Their reputation is for coming unseated at full suspension drop. They have more pieces, so more mating faces to shift apart. Some folks use zip-ties looped to keep the spring from separating from the seating plates.
With the hi-lo's, you can adjust them to have just enough tension on full drop to keep everything in place.
I read about larger bump stops with springs too, anyone know how well they are suppose to work?
Mplaye- if you haven't already check your messages about the spam mod for the forum.
Yes, I had heard about the larger bump stops were needed.
Last summer we did a spring change on a friends' mini. Went from rubber to the SRacer green springs. We were advised to stick with the hi/los that are made specifically for these springs and the SRacer bump stops. The owner is very pleased with the finished product. If I ever decide to go steel, this will be the way I go.
http://photobucket.com/jeffmmini (http://photobucket.com/jeffmmini)
On the above posts concerning subframes, That sure seems like a lot of work to get those prepared for paint. The two subframes that George took back to CA with the pickup were blasted and powder coated for $35 each. One of those I use for photos for my jack blocks.
http://photobucket.com/minijackblocks (http://photobucket.com/minijackblocks)
i'm currently running my old rubber springs with hi/lo's and they are great but i've been debating on just pulling it all out and just go with a full coilover set up. what do you guys think of coilovers??
Tackled the left rear corner. Still some more to do, but got most of it de-rustified. Lots and lots of bondo back here.
Badly dented, rusted, and bondo'd area.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1000)
Cool, it was actually made from bondo!
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Pulled the rusted outer skin exposing the badly rusted inner skin.
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Recreated the inner skin and attached the valance corner. Fitment checked good. Metal brake was a win with this area to create the lip.
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Outer skin welded into place. Also between the layers I shot with paint and then threw on a coat of grease to protect it in the future.
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Had time to put the metal brake to use again today. Fabbed up what I had to cut out, next is to skin it. Last guy really layed on the body filler, even thick on the post above where I welded in the photo. Needs some hammering to get it back straight as well.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1006)
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Dan, glad to see you still have time to make progress on the pickup when you're not jetting across the county. Keep it up, man!
Tomorrow is going to be fabricate the corner skin day I think. Can't tell you how handy the metal brake is.
Alrighty. Created the skin as well as the load floor section in the corner behind the skin. All I gotta do now is weld it into place, but thats going to have to wait till next week maybe. Too many honey do's got in the way today.
Fun part here was creating the seam. It lines up just the way it should.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1010)
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Hey Dan -- THIS is one nasty ass project. I've been running through the posts for this little jewel-in-the-rough. You obviously have no fear of oxidized ferrous metals.
"Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs" ;D
Got her welded into place, now to do the other corner.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1011)
Ok to finish it off I had to fab up the elbow brace that sits behind the corner.
Also I took off a bunch of bondo along the side, found a few dents and dings, but the most impressive thing were two holes in the upper corner that were simply filled over with bondo rather than welded closed.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1012)
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Looks good! What area are you moving onto next?
Well I want to get the other corner done, the valance on, and then I need to tidy up the front left a little. Then its the floors. I have a few patches in the bed to make, and looks like the left side of the body is going to need a section cut out and replaced, but thats easy. Get this rear end done and the floors and I'm home free.
Managed to fab up a new bracket for the tailgate hinges and patch up the bed where it all goes together. Was more of a PITA than I was expecting. Tomorrow I may start fabbing the right corner. After clamping things together it looks like the valance is a tad too long and I may need to shorten it about a half inch.
What condition is your tailgate in? Do you have to do any work to it? I saw your post about FG parts. I didn't even know they made a FG tailgate.
Its in good shape aside from some dents, but I like the idea of shaving weight and having something that can't rust.
Ok so here's what I got done today.
Before
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After
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Other corner cleaned up.
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Nice progress! What are your plans for the color?
I'm still leaning toward a bright metallic orange and white roof. Next week I should get the rest of that rear end done and move on to something else.
Didn't get to do anything with the truck this week, had a big list of house chores to catch up on. However next month I have a lot of time off and hope to tackle a lot of body work.
Ok well got a chance to organize at the shop today, sort through boxes of tools, and play with the rear valance a little.
Is this a Keeper or are you selling it.
If you are selling, lets talk. :D
Quote from: Jims5543 on May 20, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
Is this a Keeper or are you selling it.
If you are selling, lets talk. :D
LOL i've heard that before! This is a keeper, if I ever get the damn thing done!
Glad to see you're working on the truck again. I thought it was going to be put on the back burner for a while.
I need to get out to the garage and back to the 77. I've been distracted with other things as of late.
I intend to keep working on it. Should have done more the past couple days but motivation levels have been low. On that rear valance I had to chop it in half and reduce the length by about a half inch to get the ends to line up evenly on each side. Welded it back together and clamped it up.
Dan, where do you buy sheet metal stock and what gage do you buy?
I just get it from home depot or the like. 22 gauge is what I'm using on a lot of areas, its a little thinner.
22 gage!! Then I admire yous skills with a mig even more. That is hard to weld.
Yes its thin ;D Ok moving along, today I thought I'd poke at this area and see what I could uncover.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1017)
It was badly dented in with about 3/4" of bondo and rust underneath, so I cut the bastard out.
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Double layers again for no apparant reasoning. :-[
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And got part of the side fabricated and tacked into place. Will not need 10lbs of bondo now.
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Gona be a lot of work back there...
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Hey finally touched it! Rear corner complete, tomorrow gona try and get the inner areas painted and throw on the valance.
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Ok the rear is done. Primered and sprayed with some white acrylic enamal I have.
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Progress!!! Looking good.
Ordered rave fender flares today. Similar to wood and picket, just a tad wider.
I had to look those up, I had never heard of them before. They look nice and clean. Are you going to paint match them to the body?
Oh yes they will be paint matched. I like how clean the wood and picket are, but since I'm going with 6x12 deep dish wheels wanted something a hair wider.
I can not seem to find rave fender flares online. Do you have any pictures of them? I was looking at carbon weezels Miglia flares. Pricey though... What type of welder are you using? My 140 HD from Lincoln seems to be working pretty good. Did you plug weld the valence on or do you have a spot welder as-well? I'm almost all patched up just in time for winter.....
I bought the arches from gbcarparts, had them on sale for about $120. They are the same as wood and picket, just about a quarter inch wider. The reason why I prefer WP or these Raves is the screws are hidden and screw in from the bottom onto the lip. Clean looking. I use a little flux core welder from harbor freight, gets the job done. Spot welder would be handy but I just drill a hole and spot weld the pieces together that way.
Patching a few things on this side before I weld the rest of the front end on.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1028)
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Right on. How much time are you going to be able to devote to it this stint?
Two days a week, about 10 hours. I got the inner and outer Apanels pieced together and everything is a go for this side. Gotta grind some welds and finish getting off the black undercoat crap. My flares should be here around tomorrow too. As I type this I realize I forgot to pick up some more grease to spray between the Apanels and inside that door frame section I patched up before I weld them on.
Okay got lots done today and those flares came in.
Cleaning up and using the wire wheel.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1031)
Primer time
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And everything welded up. I threw a subframe in there to make sure things in fact lined up.
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Now that is looking good! It's starting to get it's shape back. How difficult was it to get everything lined up nice?
Umm, not too hard really. A little persuasion was needed here and there. The Apanels went on easier on the left side but the front end panel took some brute force upward on the left side to get it to touch up against the wing flush for whatever reason. I had things clamped up before in Arizona and didn't have that problem that I recall.
Oh and also I remembered to get my grease and sprayed between the Apanels after painting them and clamping/welding together. I'm determined to keep this thing from rusting!
Hey Dan, quick question. I'm going to be putting on new inner fenders, fenders, a panels etc. The inner fenders are Heritage and seem to be painted a thick glossy black unlike the floor panels the have a lighter coating of something on them. Do those glossy black panels need to be stripped or just scuffed and primed?
Steve
Scuffed and primed will do the trick!
Ok time for floors.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1036)
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Yes! That full length panel looked like it worked out great. Other side tomorrow?
It fit amazingly easy. The corners came together and the hole for the seat belt was a dead match as well. I'll probably finish welding the perimeter tomorrow and have an area on the tunnel where the x-member is that needs some attention. Then put in half of the x-member if I make it that far. Debating to buy kickpanels or just fab up my own as well.
Oh and for the rear subby attach panel, I'm going to install the rear subby to make sure I get things dead ass perfect. It would be easy to screw that up.
Todays work.
Used a subby that still had the hardware attached and made sure things fit. Before I cut out the subframe attach panel initially, I had also put marks where the holes should align. Everything came together perfectly.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1038)
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And tinkered with the x-member.
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Smart move with the sub-frame. Is it just that one mounting area that needed to be replaced? Is that sub-frame good enough to run with just a clean up and repaint or are you going to need a new one?
That subby goes with batman's old car. My subby I cleaned up already and will use. I'll need to replace the other mounting area also, but doing one at a time, so I could use the other side as a reference.
I had forgot that you had electrocuted a subframe into submission for this project a while back. I reread the posts and saw it again.
Ok got some more patching done and the x member is welded into place.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1042)
A little body filler skim coat and sanding and it will be perfecto.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1043)
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I swear if I ever do it again I am doing it on a rotisserie. It must be amazing to work on stuff like that without having to be on your back. Looking great.
Yeah the rotissier makes it a gazillion times easier.
A gazillion. It doesn't get any better than that!\
I have way too much floor work to try to attempt this on my back. Have tons of cleaning and grinding under there yet to do. Need to get some seam sealer and go around the perimeter and grab some more primer too. Will be doing some sand blasting on the underside of the bed area soon to eliminate the disaster that is back there.
Decided to order a sample of a color I'm interested in. Still leaning toward orange. This particular one is a kandy/pearl. Will spray a piece of metal and see how it looks in person.
Cool! Will you have enough to do the bonnet? Seems like that would be a good piece to spray to see if you're going to like how it looks on the truck.
Oh no, just ordered a 4oz sample. Gona shoot it over a small piece of sheet metal that has various colors as a base to see how it looks over each one. White, black, grey, and metallic silver will be the test bases. I've contemplated trying to shoot a true kandy paint over a metallic base. This is a kandy mixed in with pearl, so its suppose to be easier to spray (and repair later if needed), and look like a true kandy. Curious to see how it reacts to the different bases, if at all. When I do the main paint job it will all be shot at once to avoid having some panels different shades than others.
"When I do the main paint job it will all be shot at once to avoid having some panels different shades than others"
So will the bonnet.boot, and doors be all attached when you spray?
No, but they'll be in line with the body to get the same coverage, and sprayed in the same temp/humidity, pressure, ect... I sprayed a door on one of my cars a few years ago at a different time than the body and it was a complete different shade. Was able to fix it, but just extra work.
Wow, I didn't even think that would matter. I figured as long as you were using the same mixture you'd be good to go. That is good info to keep in mind.
Yeah doing metallics/pearls on different days is not recommended, as you can run into the metallic laying different and ending up with a different result each time. Also should spray the doors on their side rather than flat so it lays the same. Just one more preventative step to make things come out better in the end. The underside and inside will be shot at different times obviously.
I have found that Metallic's can easily be sprayed in batches as long as they are orientated the same relation to each other and the airflow of the paint booth. For Pearls/candies I usually jamb the car foam the panels in place spray the candy/ pearl then blow it back apart for clear.
Quote from: Nicholasupton on October 05, 2011, 07:07:14 PM
For Pearls/candies I usually jamb the car foam the panels in place spray the candy/ pearl then blow it back apart for clear.
Hey Nick, could you explain that part.
I use thishttp://www.tcpglobal.com/3m/3m400-5.aspx (http://www.tcpglobal.com/3m/3m400-5.aspx) back in the gaps to prevent overspray from darkening the jambs. I have only done 2 cars in candy and this worked well for me. Most of the time when I use candy it is for a small personal project as as they are almost never used in restorations.
Ok thought thats what you meant. Thanks for the clarification.
Paint due to arrive today and just ordered both sills and lower door frame step panels.
MiniSport?
GBcarparts.com. That guy David who runs it does a good job and his prices are good. I order from minisport too depending what I'm getting.
Ok shot a test panel to experiment with this paint. My phone only takes but so good of pics but here goes...
Primered and then shot white, metallic, and black
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1051)
Tried to take pics at different angles to kinda show how it looks at different angles. Here it is clear coated. I like the metallic base the best. It stays a little darker at all angles and pops a little more. Straight on it looks identical to the regular grey primer.
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I don't know, but in the pictures it looks streaky? Almost like uneven spraying?
Prob the reflection from the ceiling in the shop, its not streaky in person. I need to invest in a camera too. Pics don't do it justice but you get the general idea. This is HOK candy/pearl. First time shooting that kind of paint.
Hey Dan -- I really like the Kandy Pearl Red/Orange! Interesting how the different undercolors affect the top coat. I used to spray plastic model cars when I was a kid with Kandy colors. We used either gold or silver as the undercoat. Jeez, now I'm a grown-up and a real-sized car, even a Mini, is loads more work :-)
Got my BRG SPi running...finally. I have taken loads of pix. Still have some issues with the ECU and various sensors that talk to it. Need to post to my page.
Your pick-up is going to be SWEET!
--Dana
Dana good to hear from you. I need to check out your car.
You should try it with a white basecoat, purple or white pearl mid coat and candy tricoat. Gives a great effect if you can pull it off. I did it on a shop refrigerator for a friend and ghosted in he shop name by masking it off during the pearl coat.
Never thought of trying purple. I may have to toy around some more.
Are the Replacement floors seam or spot welded to the tunnel? Also how do you know that the floor is level?
In the photos I had only welded a few areas along the tunnel, but it will be a continuous weld when I'm done. Regarding how level it is, in my case I feel confident since it had to line up with the subby attach panel, the front kick panel area (later cut out but specifically a bolt hole for the subby which I used to bolt the two together to hold it in place), and each side where it either lined up along the door frame and along the tunnel where it levels off into the floor. So after you get all the key points in place where the old floor was, if its off its not enough to matter.
Door frames and sills are due to arrive on the 14th! Woot.
Which door frames did you order, as I have not been able to source complete door frames for MK1/2 cars?
Nic, these aren't the whole frames, they are bottom repair with the side panel that extend back into the rear arch. I'll snap some photos when they get in when I'm back from work this week.
Ok they made it in this afternoon, tomorrow I'll get to work again.
Nic, Magnum is who makes the panels according to the sticker on the back. Knockoff, so so quality, fit good and will get the job done. I say so so quality because the edges will need trimmed as there is excess lip, but more is better I guess.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1052)
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Got a camera finally, a new shot of the orange.
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Todays work...
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Painted as well as sprayed with grease on both cill and door frame.
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No job would be complete without gashing your fingers on the edge of sheet metal.
:-\
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Nice work, Dan. Glad to see the progress again. I like the middle orange paint the best.
BTW, how are you going to hold the yoke with that hand now? Haha
Middle orange is what I like too.
Autopilot! Nah, nothing some bandaids and neosporin couldn't fix. Flew all week with no problems.
Won't be back to keep working on the truck for at least two weeks. I'm having withdrawels already.
Today I finally finished welding the perimeter of what was left on the left floor and ground down the welds. Then finished fabbing up what I had to cut out in the rear wheel well. Tomorrow I'm not sure if I'm diving into the other floor or working on the bed.
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Why are the pickups always so far gone? Was the rust added by the factory.
Quote from: Nicholasupton on November 30, 2011, 08:59:27 PM
Why are the pickups always so far gone? Was the rust added by the factory.
Yeah no joke, must park them in 3 feet of water.
Tinkered around with the bed and wheel well. Got most of the undercoat off of the wheel well and patched a few spots that were rusted out. I think I'm going to break down and just buy a whole new bed. Didn't want to but its going to be a patch job otherwise and I'd like to get that bed floor to another truck out of there.
Pics of the prodding around.
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7ent has a source for a complete pickup floor that is stamped in one piece and not 2 sides welded together like the m-machine one. Last quote I got on one was about $700.
Gbcarparts can get me the two piece for under $400. For $300 I can weld a line and grind it down, though I hear ya, one piece would be conveniant.
Just be aware that the mini machine load bay does not have the channels in the bay stop for the rear subframe panel, and cause other fitting issues. I have found that the time saved outweighed the additional cost. I also prefer to make my own Load floor support with grommet holes only, so I can spray 3M Rust Fighter inside the box sections and then seal off from outside weather. They can also be popped out later if water does find it's way in.
So save the money on the support brace and splurge on the load floor. 4.gif
I like your idea about the cross member load support. Easy to make with my metal brake. However I already placed an order on a handful of pieces I've decided to replace. The cross member being one of them. I had to fight and drill out the tailgate hinges and tore the one bracket up, so ordered all new there and figured I'll replace the closing panel in the process since it has seen better days, although could probabaly be salvaged. I'd rather just replace it if I go tearing back into it. The actual bed floor will have to wait another paycheck or two, but that will certainly replace essentially all the metal back there. Between the front end, floors, and bed/rear end, only metal left to replace is the roof lol.
At least you have a good roof as that is the only panel you can not get for a pickup.
Ha, yeah even the gutters are solid. The one part that wasn't parked in water!
Cut out the other floor and tacked in the new. Need to get some more cutting wheels to continue on. Hopefully tomorrow I get a lot done.
There was a pile of debri and rust in here.
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(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1071)
Got lots done today. Subframe panel in place, floor tacked, cross member in place, sill in place, and door frame in place. Everything is ready to be welded up.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1075)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1073)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1076)
Wow talk about quick shipping, I ordered these a few days ago from somerfordmini.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1077)
Quote from: 94touring on December 05, 2011, 06:56:33 PM
Ha, yeah even the gutters are solid. The one part that wasn't parked in water!
LOL!!
Nice progress Dan.
Not replacing the inner stiffener panels? Damn I wanted to see how you were going to tackle that.
Nah, it looks like crap on the bottom but still functional. It would be easy to pop off with an air chisel with the side panel cut off like I have.
Ok finally home after a few weeks...
Door frame and cill welded up
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1079)
Closing plate and brackets for tailgate assembled and attached
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1078)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1080)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1081)
Tomorrow I may continue cutting on the bed to get ready for the bed floor replacement and will continue welding the main floor.
My observation: You should have just bought all the pieces and built a truck from scratch. 8.gif
However, you are very good at fixing this stuff I say. 4.gif
Ok today I cut out most of the bed and one wheel arch assembly, welded up more on the floors and got in the bed load x-member.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1083)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1085)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1084)
Quote from: batman1usa on December 29, 2011, 08:46:37 AM
My observation: You should have just bought all the pieces and built a truck from scratch. 8.gif
However, you are very good at fixing this stuff I say. 4.gif
Thats what its starting to feel like!
Not a whole lot to report on today. Got the engine off the subframe and tinkered around with a few things. Ordered the rear wheel arches since I will be replacing those too. Bought a couple bags of sand to do some sand blasting. Now back to my day job for awhile...
Good to see you finally swept up a little. 16.gif
I get tired of rolling around in piles of rust and sweep the floor when motivated enough. ;D
Well its cold and I'm lazy today, so all I really did was test fit a wheel well and snap a pic.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1086)
Tinkered a bit today but nothing major. Still waitin for the rear support braces for the wheel wells before I do much of anything else.
And wouldn't you know the support/stiffeners arrived as I'm walking out the door for the airport. Back Monday to try this again...
lol!!! that is always the way it works for me too!!!!
Ok got a little bit done. Can't seem to find my air chisel so I couldn't really start on the other side.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1090)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1089)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1088)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1087)
Spent a large portion of the day welding things up front that I had skipped before. Air chisel showed up and I got the other wheel well out of the way, sand blasted, rusted holes patched, and ready to fit the new panels.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1091)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1092)
Before you know it you'll be prepping for paint. What are your plans for the engine?
Yeah not far from the prep work. Saving for the bed floor and then the metal work is done.
The engine will have high compression 20 over pistons, fast road cam, 1.5 rollers, head work...bigger valves, port job. Light flywheel and either dual carbs or John is looking into fabbing up some wicked throttle body with fuel injection that sounds interesting. A few other go fast goodies I probably didn't list.
Where's the shop at in Tulsa? Behind Hayman's house?
Yep behind the house...far enough away you can make lots of noise and not bother his wife ;D
Sitting around today at my lady friends house in Philly looking up engine components. Lots of goodies to buy, and lots of money needed to buy them! Keeping my fingers crossed my tax return is good enough to buy the stuff I want.
The engine was pulled apart a week or so ago.
OUCH !!!!! This close to me and No phone call?????? Man!!!!!!!
Quote from: macmanron on January 31, 2012, 09:28:02 PM
OUCH !!!!! This close to me and No phone call?????? Man!!!!!!!
I'm sure his "lady friend" has been keeping him busy. Sometimes it's hard to come up for some air when you got a good thing going on. LOL
:D. Yes sorry, got preoccupied. If it helps I was literally locked in her place for the day. Went to take out the trash out and realized she locked me in. She has old doors that lock on both sides and I was without a key. She's really trying to hang on to me I guess lol.
Quote from: 94touring on February 01, 2012, 06:18:41 AM
:D. Yes sorry, got preoccupied. If it helps I was literally locked in her place for the day. Went to take out the trash out and realized she locked me in. She has old doors that lock on both sides and I was without a key. She's really trying to hang on to me I guess lol.
Uh oh, Dan. This could be a sign. LOL
Continuing on with the bed. Finished off the left wheel well and sand blasted the subframe cross member panel. Cut and air chiseled the remaining pieces of old bed out. More cleanup and prep scheduled for the bed tomorrow.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1094)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1093)
Put the metal brake to use today in order to fabricate the box that goes between the wheel well and rear subby attach panel, and also the cross member subby panel needed each end fixed up. Tinkered with the cab rear bulk head, and may start fixing that up next go around. Was gona start stripping paint on the exterior and throw a coat of primer on but it was rainy today so will wait for a dryer day. Picked up a gallon of sealer primer though during lunch. Back in two weeks to finish cleaning the body up...
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1095)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1096)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1097)
Getting close! I'm excited to see some paint on this!
Getting there alright. Need to order the bed panels still, end of this month looks like. Whoever put in the basterdized bed double layered for me, so its going to take a lot of effort to clean up the rear cab bulk head on the bed side. Lots of big welds to take care of. I need to see if the bed panel goes to the inside of the cab and attaches directly to that lipped piece that is in the one photo. If not, I will fab up something nice for the inside and the bed will adjoin nicely on the outside. Even though the bed has been a ton of work, I'm definetly feeling good that I decided to fork out the extra cash to do it right.
Ordered the bed today. Spent the day grinding welds along the floor in preperation for primer. Its fairly time consuming. I suspect the next several work days on it will involve grinding.
Have a couple photos to share. Last photo posted of the front right floor pan area had a large hole where I was fabricating it back together. Here it is done. Will need to tidy up the other side at some point. Also fabricated the brace that goes behind the drivers seat and attaches from the floor to the bed.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1100)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1098)
The bottom part had to be made, the top part will be reused.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1099)
Back at it today. Spend several hours grinding the overlapping welds along the cab rear bulkhead panel shown here to prep for the bed installation, whenever I get the bed. Cut the remaining rotten parts out and will have to do a little fab work once the bed gets in to fix it up right. Aside from that I'm hoping to primer the rest of the floor tomorrow.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1101)
Did a bunch of sand blasting and primered the inside bottom. Here's before and after shots. 71.gif
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=931)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=927)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1102)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1103)
Must have been some high build primer to fill all those holes in the floor pan. 71.gif 11.gif
Haha, yeah thats all it was. If I had to do it over again, I would have just ordered the whole floor in one complete piece. Took awhile to weld the perimeter and grind it up nice. Happy with the end result though.
Nice work Dan!
Thanks man. I should take a picture of the sandblaster setup I'm using. Bought bags of play sand, filtered it out, and wear a respirator, goggles, and wrap towels around my head. Sure does make a mess but really cleans all these hard to get to places quick and easy. Really looking forward to doing the engine bay when I get more time.
Looks Very nice, are those two strips where the subby bolts too extra metal??? Stiffer, beefed up???
Yeah, if you look closely in the rotten floor pics, you will see what was left of a strip of metal there to support the subby. I assumed that was original and recreated using 18 gauge. And actually it was the same piece of metal I test sprayed orange on, and the face down part still has orange on it. Seam sealed around everything once I was done.
Edit: found a pic in the gallery from Deans car that shows it a little better.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=422)
did you do Dean's car??
No I did not. I believe I was in Arizona when he had that done. Although I hear he needs work done in the rear of the car. I stay so busy flying these days its gona be hard for me to dedicate time to someone elses project, unless they have time on their hands.
Bed panels are leaving the UK today-ish. 4.gif
Good to meet you yesterday!!
Yeah I enjoyed checking out the wagon and going for a ride in the S!
Latest update, bed is at GB carparts and being packed and shipped this way. Next week the weather should be good while I'm off work for a few days and gona knock this sucker out. Then its block sanding time after stripping the rest of the body.
Ok here we go...
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1104)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1106)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1105)
So fitment seems good, will need a tweak here and there. Started blasting the engine bay while primer dried. Gona be a lot of work the next few days.
Nice!
Alright did my final fitments/tweaks and got her in place and started the spot welding bonanza. Then I ran out of wire...so tomorrow will finish it up.
Painted things up before throwing it in.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1108)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1107)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1110)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1111)
How are you going to address the gaps between the top of the heelboard/ rear subframe mounting panel the the load floor?
Seam sealing all perimeters. Will just have to build it up the extra 1/4 inch or so at every low spot.
Was able to fab up the lower cab section (previously rotten) where it meets the bed and weld that in today. Took a lot of welding and grinding and I'm still not done dressing it up. Looks a million times better than what was previously patched in there. Gone for a few weeks then back at it. Bed is spot welded up though.
4.gif I enjoy checking out the build from time to time. It's like I'm helping but staying out of the way. 11.gif
by the way, is that my routiserie(was that my routiserie)? If not it looks like it but with wheels.
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Ah thanks! I'm finally gona be back in town Monday to finish the bed. Yep that's your old rotiss with a few mods.
Been awhile since I've done anything. Staying busy at work and doing other things I suppose. Anyways, I fabricated the lip along the rail inside the cab and started prepping around the welds I ground down. Still plenty of sanding yet to do there. I also seam sealed along the perimeter of the bed before sand blasting.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1113)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1114)
Today I was able to clean up the rear end of the cab and throw down some primer. Not exactly easy or fun sanding the lower part.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1115)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1116)
Heres the before photo showing how patched and ratty it was where the cab met the bed.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=949)
Alrighty finishing up the bed today... sand blasted the bed floor and insides, cleaned things up a bit, and threw on a coat of sealer primer. Time to tear into the cab side of things and then continue body prep for paint.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1119)
Stripped the body today, combination of sanding disc on an angle grinder and sand blaster. While minor, I was surprised at the amount of surface rust under the 1/4 inch of body filler on sides of the body. Then it was expoxy sealer primer and filler primer in preperation for block sanding.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1121)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1122)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1123)
Started the block sanding. Heres a pic showing what little skim coat of body filler was needed in the more troubled areas. All and all I've reduced body filler by about 90% compared to what I took off. Happy about that.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1126)
This thing is going to be sweet! You need to take a month off from flying and sprint to the finish.
If only I could ;D This pace is perfect though, I have just enough money to keep going at this rate.
Just got back from watching my buddy John take apart the subframe. We had to cut off a couple of the pins that were being stubborn.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1127)
Quote from: 94touring on May 17, 2012, 02:35:06 PM
Started the block sanding. Heres a pic showing what little skim coat of body filler was needed in the more troubled areas. All and all I've reduced body filler by about 90% compared to what I took off. Happy about that.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1126)
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Looking awesome!!!!
Well I've had 4 days off this week to do lots of block sanding, however I became sick with a headcold. So...I've done nothing.
Quote from: 94touring on May 31, 2012, 08:22:19 AM
Well I've had 4 days off this week to do lots of block sanding, however I became sick with a headcold. So...I've done nothing.
Enough with the excuses already!
lol.
My kids brought something home from school about a month ago and it knocked me out for over 2 weeks. Couldn't even think about going into the garage...
Hope you're feeling better.
Now back to work! 20.gif
I'm not too horrible, but the thought of wearing a respirator or breathing in dust from sanding doesn't sound too appealing. Maybe tomorrow I'll wake up and feel better so I can sand. I did go and pick up some more filler primer however.
Sooooo, any progress ?
Sadly no. My condo purchase took up all my time and money. Soon though I will start back on it. Suppose to work on Deans mini and some money from that will go toward the truck. I would be on it this week but I have year end testing for work I'm buckling down for.
Can't wait to see more of this... I am considering a similar shade of orange for my Mini. I really want to see what it looks like on the truck!
I have this bad habit where I work on everyone elses car but my own :-X 11.gif
I have the same problem. 9.gif
Goodness it's been awhile since I've touched this thing. So, my new hire help will get started on finishing the block sanding and under side cleaning for paint so I can get it on the dolly. I just bought paint for it too. Still doing tangerine orange. Since my subby went on the blue car and what parts I do have are in shambles I'm debating buying one of those pre assembled complete rear sub frames. Pricey, though will save me time buying a long list of parts and assembling.
What's your typical dolly setup? ie, attachment points, etc...every once in awhile I start to think about it - trying to work out where the best place would be for it to not be in the way. And how to then get it off the thing...
No attachment points, unless you decided to use the factory spots on the front and rear section of the sills. I just set the shell on the frame of the cart and roll it around. I have two built of wood and one out of metal.
The truck actually got a full day of block sanding done to it!
Can you believe it?
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1776)
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1773)
That's gonna be one HOT looking truck. 4.gif 4.gif
Another angle in light. Yeah I love the color! Its nice having a minion to prep stuff while I'm working on other things. I can actually get more done lol.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1779)
And so it begins.. the next stage of where it will sit. You better take some "you" time and finish your truck!
Next time bodywork and paint the rear valence while you do the underside, that way later you don't have to lay on your back to paint it with the top.
Yeah I actually wanted to do that, except I needed to grind and work on some things on it and didn't have time to screw with it. I just wanted it off the rotisserie and out of the way for now.
Cool thread just though I would skim thru since I saw the truck when we were there.
I did order seat covers for it this week. So that's an update 77.gif
This effing truck is what got me all obsessed about owning one.
This is your fault Dan.
Love the color, it looks amazing.
I have decided no more projects till I finish it.
FINNNNALLLY!
Yeah see...It was even in the paint booth today getting some block sanding and another round of primer put on.
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1979)
Nice line up at the paint booth 4.gif
I was shifting them around today. Too many cabinets and not enough minis!
(http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/MGalleryItem.php?id=1980)
Truck back on hold?
It's 3 deep in a never ending line of minis. I have more cars on a waiting list I haven't even mentioned.
OH BTW - I loaded my Truck up on a carriers shipping truck today it is heading your way. There is a note on the front seat and paint color samples there too. It should be there by Monday.
Oh no.... :(
Quote from: Jims5543 on July 30, 2014, 12:11:58 PM
OH BTW - I loaded my Truck up on a carriers shipping truck today it is heading your way. There is a note on the front seat and paint color samples there too. It should be there by Monday.
:D
True story - I use a pretty good local Sea Doo boat / Jet Ski mechanic. He told me he comes in to his shop every Monday with all kinds of Skis and Boats dumped off in the parking lot. Then he gets a phone call mid way through the day from the people that dumped the stuff off "telling" him to fix them. No appointments nothing just the stuff dumped off. I always call first and or stop by and see if he can handle a job or when can he.
So I thought I would do the same and just have my Mini show up on Dans doorstep.
I keep telling myself NO MORE projects, but then someone makes me an offer I can't refuse. Plus I'm remodeling my condo by night, and the extra cash helps there.
Isn't this sorta like your paint color?
Ah kinda hard to tell. Maybe a little depending on the light.
Wow, last post in this thread was Aug 2014.
So it's been ignored since then?
This one is definitely a marathon, not a sprint!
Ha. Yeah it's never getting done.
Quote from: 94touring on June 27, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
Ok where was I.... ;D Was just looking at the title and realized I bought this thing over 3 years ago! Got it from Willie_B I do believe. I drove the piss out of it till I moved away from Tulsa a couple years back. Had started doing some things like painted the roof and fixed gutter rust, collected a bunch of panels for it, but life got in the way. Can't tell you guys how much I can't wait to haul it back to the east coast to really do something with it finally. Has a 1275cc engine with some long gears that hauled butt. My original plan was to paint it old english white, or maybe even that new pepper white, have the black roof, 10x6 wheels of some sort, and some red interior. Has 8.4 disc but will convert down to fit 10's, and still need to buy some floor pans and door skins. Here's a couple old pics I found in an email from when I purchased it.
Well 12 years later it's rolling to it's new home in Maine. Somewhat sad I never actually finished it for myself but that's life.
But it is in better shape than when you got it.
Quote from: Willie_B on September 28, 2021, 03:58:57 PM
But it is in better shape than when you got it.
I replaced virtually every panel but the roof! When I was under it mounting subframes I was admiring the load bed and all the non rotted metal.
Maine? The way life should be!
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Quote from: 94touring on September 28, 2021, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: 94touring on June 27, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
Has a 1275cc engine with some long gears that hauled butt.
What happened to the motor? Is that what's in the blue car now?
Yeah the 1275 is in my blue mini.
Doors, bonnet, and tailgate on. Officially ready to haul to Dave's.
No glass - even the side windows?
Steering wheel?
Any engine parts, like engine stays and such?
There will be boxes of parts including the glass. I couldn't find any steering wheels so a vice grip turns the column for now.
Don't mess up the splines! I have a wheel we can use to drive it into the shop and into Clancy's trailer when it's time to go home to Maine (? - not Bpston?)
They're below the splines on the shaft.
Make sure the bonnet is latched down good before you hit the road.......just sayin' ;D
Quote from: cstudep on September 29, 2021, 06:33:09 PM
Make sure the bonnet is latched down good before you hit the road.......just sayin' ;D
Ha yes, I won't make that mistake twice.