Author Topic: Minis For Sale on BAT  (Read 126558 times)

Offline MPlayle

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1225 on: September 04, 2019, 08:36:43 PM »
I got forwarded the following link as a "discussion" topic regarding BaT:

https://www.guyswithrides.com/2019/05/18/has-bring-a-trailer-jumped-the-shark/


Offline BruceK

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1226 on: September 13, 2019, 11:45:55 AM »
Another Mini popped up on BaT a couple of days ago.  It's listed as a "1973 Mini 850 Deluxe 1.3L" which is a bit of an oxymoron. 

The URL seems to be geared for the auction of a Morris Mini, but this car is an Authi, so it's from a pretty rare branch of the Mini family tree. 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-morris-mini-850-deluxe-2/

Some harsh comments so far, but my guess is this will be bid to perhaps $12K or $13K and might go RNM.  But then again, being a 1973 it avoids some of California's more onerous and overreaching vehicle regulations.  So that might bring some interest and more money from bidders in that state.

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Online MiniDave

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1227 on: September 13, 2019, 02:18:24 PM »
Sandwich plate on the remote means it probably didn't come from a Mini, wouldn't you say? Unless the Authi folks used the AA style set up?

People pointed out the difference in paint color on the doors - Dan and I have had many discussions about this. My contention is that when the doors are painted separately from the body (and often weeks or months later) that there's almost no way to make the paint match. Differences in temperature, humidity and even the age of the paint and the mix of thinner, air pressure, moisture in the air line - any number of things that can spell a difference - shoot, even how far the door is off the floor compared to the body shell means the angle of the spray will be different. I also pointed out that no factory paints their cars this way....rather they paint it all at once, then take the doors back off to assemble them, then remount them on the car later down the production line.

I can't count how may cars I've seen on BaT with "fresh" paint where the doors in particular don't match - some glaringly so.

Dan says he thinks it's not a problem if the painter knows what he's doing and takes some car with it.

As to Michael's post, I did not know that they turned down more cars than they list. I wonder just how big they will grow the auction site? Just the number of Porsches changing hands on BaT is staggering....
« Last Edit: September 13, 2019, 02:26:37 PM by MiniDave »
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Offline Jimini II

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1228 on: September 13, 2019, 05:23:20 PM »
It has a few quirks but at least the 850 has been replaced with a 1275.
I don't understand why Mini owners don't convert to Discs before installing bigger engines, yes for the most part when everything is working good they are "marginally" fine but imo converting to discs up front it is one of the best things you can do to a stock Mini.

Offline gr8kornholio

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1229 on: September 13, 2019, 05:53:10 PM »
Idk. The PO of mine put a built 1380 in it and was still running the drums. He hadnít upgraded cause the $1500 cost from 7.  Luckily I know better and got it for $600 from spares.
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Online 94touring

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1230 on: September 14, 2019, 10:45:24 AM »
That one door is darker in the pics.  It could be the body was primered in white and the door repaired, primed in grey, then sprayed.  We had this issue with Vikrams car when I shot the doors way after the fact.  Usually will match right up but in his case the body primer was tinted and when I did the doors I used grey.  I forgot that detail. Live and learn.  I just painted the flip front on the 66 S after waiting a solid year and running out of the first batch of paint. Not only did I run out of paint but I had since switched to a different brand of paint that covers better.  I was worried it wouldn't match and I'd have to blend into existing paint that is perfect, doubling work and wasting money on clear.  But, it's a dead match.  When I did front end repair on the rx7 a couple years ago, which included fixing a door, I blended approximately halfway down the door vs spraying the whole door in color to avoid non matching panels.  If there is a difference the blending tricks the eyes and you'd never see it.  Turns out though the paint was nats ass on matching, but either way it's best to take out the risk.  Dave's clubman when I did repairs had something like 3 different shades of that cream color blended throughout the body.  Who knew.  Took a couple batches of paint before I got something that worked. 

Also let me note that using paint chips out of a book is really setting yourself up for failure.  Getting an electronic scan of existing paint is the only way to get something perfect, or perfect enough the human eye can't make out the difference.
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Offline BruceK

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1231 on: September 18, 2019, 08:29:20 AM »
A 1973 Innocenti Mini Cooper has appeared on BaT.    This will be an interesting one to watch.   The car has some regular Mini non-Inno stuff on it, and has hail damage and rust too.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mini-innocenti-cooper-s/

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Online MiniDave

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1232 on: September 18, 2019, 10:28:44 AM »
And a poorly repaired left front fender with Bondo cracking thru the paint. And a filthy engine compartment.

But it has had a LOT of money spent on it getting suspension, brakes and other running gear sorted out....in fact, the invoices are staggering - to me. The one from Heritage garage in Costa Mucha was $6700! That was all for the suspension and brakes and such.....

Giant radio speakers in the door panels don't do it any favors either.....I loved reading the comments from the repair guy in Denver on his invoices. After repairing the door pulls (must have been the second time) he wrote "maybe this will last longer", sounded like he was a bit exasperated with it! :-)
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Offline BruceK

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1233 on: September 18, 2019, 02:02:49 PM »
I've heard that Heritage Garage and Jet Motors do great work.  But my oh my, do they charge mucho $$$$$$ for it. 
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Online MiniDave

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1234 on: September 18, 2019, 02:21:30 PM »
He said the left fender damage was due to a hail stone, but that all the rest of car only has tiny almost unnoticeable dings. I still think there is bondo under that crack on the left front fender
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Offline Jimini II

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1235 on: September 18, 2019, 04:53:05 PM »
The red Mini just closed at $14,200 on BaT.

Offline BruceK

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1236 on: September 18, 2019, 05:00:42 PM »
The red Mini just closed at $14,200 on BaT.

A little above my high guess at $13K.  Thatís a fair amount of money for a disc brake car IMO.
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Offline Jimini II

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1237 on: September 18, 2019, 05:06:51 PM »
He said the left fender damage was due to a hail stone, but that all the rest of car only has tiny almost unnoticeable dings. I still think there is bondo under that crack on the left front fender

I agree there is a lot of bondo in those fenders. Look at the seam lines they are not original and look to have been "manufactured" by cutting into the bondo (old body man trick) plus the small upright seams under the headlights are now filled in and gone. 
Also i don't see the Inno factory vin plate just the vin number stamped into the inner fender.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2019, 05:16:03 PM by Jimini II »

Offline Jimini II

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1238 on: September 18, 2019, 05:13:54 PM »
The red Mini just closed at $14,200 on BaT.

A little above my high guess at $13K.  Thatís a fair amount of money for a disc brake car IMO.

For a NON disc braked car with fiberglass floors ;)
He took the reserve off 5 minutes before the end of the auction, a smart move on his part.

Online MiniDave

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1239 on: September 18, 2019, 05:32:54 PM »
Well, he sure fooled me - the guy that bought it was the one that jumped the bid $5K early on - I had him pegged as a shill for doing that. Congrats to the new owner - another Mini going to Maryland!
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Offline jeff10049

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1240 on: September 19, 2019, 12:24:31 AM »
 seller blatantly lies about the glassed floors.  car is clearly full of rust with all the paint blisters
  just the shit paint alone is bad and says run yet brings 14k wow just wow. I feel for the new owner as the car will need floors and who knows what else. I 100% guarantee that the floor is full of glass can see it a mile away but hey apparently that's just anti gravel coating :) seriously disappointed in the seller and somewhat in bat. 

maybe the new owner will show up here and we will get the low down on the car. Hopefully, they can come out ok.

Offline BruceK

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1241 on: September 19, 2019, 08:51:46 AM »
The red Mini just closed at $14,200 on BaT.

A little above my high guess at $13K.  Thatís a fair amount of money for a disc brake car IMO.

For a NON disc braked car with fiberglass floors ;)
He took the reserve off 5 minutes before the end of the auction, a smart move on his part.

Díoh. I meant to say drum brake car!
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Offline Jimini II

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1242 on: September 19, 2019, 10:19:39 AM »
Yes it did a lot of money for what it was imo.

Online MiniDave

Re: Minis For Sale on BAT
« Reply #1243 on: September 19, 2019, 11:18:31 AM »
Re-sale red......almost always works......def brought all the moneys.
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