Author Topic: 67' MK2 S  (Read 365 times)

Offline G67mcs

67' MK2 S
« on: February 06, 2020, 09:59:40 AM »
        New member to restorationmini and have recently acquired an early MK2 S after being mini-less for 14 years. I previously (1989 to 2006) restored a 67' MK1 vintage race mini which now resides in Iowa. I had been looking for another original Mini for awhile being a bini owner over the past 17 years and looked at several cars online before picking up my car. Also followed all the sales on BaT where prices seem to be driven higher with hype and bidding wars.

    In any case the car acquired like many has been modified from stock probably during the nineties. It appears to have original floors, braking components, engine, dual tanks, heater (not installed), vin & commission plates, wiring loom, headliner and door cards. Missing center binnacle & gauges, proper seats, steel front end, twin carbs and 3-synchro 22G333 gearbox. It has a 22G1128 box currently. The dash is wood with multiple Autometer gauges  Car has a fiberglass flip front end with MK1 grille and mustache. PO added 5"x12" Minator wheels but included the 5"x10" 100+ wheels as well. He referred to the 10" wheels as original and I thought I would be getting original steel S wheels (slight disappointment). Exterior of the car is painted a metallic blue which is presentable but not a great job, while some suspension pieces, the engine and compartment are painted bright blue. My goal is to revert to a more stock appearance, utilize period modifications and in the future do body work and repaint to the original color, under dash & rear squab appears to be almond green.

Appreciate all the experienced folks in this group and I'm sure many questions will be forthcoming. I'm seeking a center binnacle, speedometer and temp gauges, switch panel, original or period aftermarket seats, MK2 grille & surround, badges, etc..

Garry

-didn't realize phone pics post upside down.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2020, 08:19:04 AM by G67mcs »
1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner

Offline gr8kornholio

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2020, 11:55:01 AM »
Welcome, and nice mini.  I see your PO went the same route as mine with all the matchy matchy under the hood.  At least your blues seem to match, mine was accented in red even though the car was maroon.  Look forward to following the progress.
I am the GR8KORNHOLIO! Are you threatening me?

Saussie Aussie 1965 Australian MK1 Mini.
"Beavis" - 07 MY/MY MCS, B/MY Konig Daylites, JCW sideskirts, TSW springs, TSW lower rear control arms -- Exploring the country with new friends since 11/09.

Offline G67mcs

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2020, 02:00:17 PM »
Thanks GR8kornhollo!

What's the secret to posting iPhone pics in correct orientation?

 Have gotten the car running after changing the pre-pump and inline fuel filters. Engine currently has an HIF44 carb and the choke cable attachment is not letting it off completely. Will work on cable attachment & routing to correct.

Garry
1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner

Offline MPlayle

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2020, 02:01:44 PM »
Dan knows an app that will fix the phone picture orientation prior to attaching to the posts.  Give him a bit to respond.


Offline velopackrat

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2020, 02:21:15 PM »
Garry,  I think the 1128 gearbox might have been original to your Mk2 S.  And lucky you, as they shift better and are less prone to making the oil look like pearl or metal flake:)  If you're ever inside there, the laygear would be marked 22g1040 if it's S spec.

Offline 94touring

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2020, 03:32:42 PM »
Download "reduce photo size" app onto your phone or device and it's easy to see how the orientation will be when photos post, and rotate accordingly if they require it.

Offline G67mcs

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2020, 08:56:54 AM »
  Thanks Dan!

A little research into the upside down photos has identified the issue with iPhone camera orientation. It's not intuitive, however if the volume button is on the bottom in landscape mode, the picture will upload in the correct orientation.

On the transmissions, I thought some of the earliest MK2's still had the 3-synchro box. I don't know the car's production date, however the wiper motor has a November 67' date.

1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner

Offline MiniDave

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2020, 09:47:58 AM »
The 66 Cooper S  Dan just finished has a 3 synchro transmission - surprised me the first time I drove it, I thought something was wrong with the clutch.....

Are you familiar with MiniSpares in England? If not that's where a lot of us order all our Mini parts as prices even including the exchange rate and shipping can be as much as 1/3 to 1/2 what the US suppliers charge.

For example.....  http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/Gauges/Speedo/13H4442KIT.aspx?1404&ReturnUrl=/search/classic/gauges.aspx|Back%20to%20search

also available with magnolia faces   http://www.minispares.com/product/Classic/Gauges/Clock/13H4442MGKIT.aspx?1403&ReturnUrl=/search/classic/gauges.aspx|Back%20to%20search

Welcome to the forum, Garry!
« Last Edit: February 07, 2020, 09:55:20 AM by MiniDave »
1989 Cooper Racing Green
2009 Clubman S
2004 Audi Allroad 2.7 TT

Online BruceK

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2020, 10:25:31 AM »
Dan knows an app that will fix the phone picture orientation prior to attaching to the posts.  Give him a bit to respond.

My trick to get iPhone photos oriented correctly is to edit the offending photo on the iPhone with the native photo software as you are viewing the photo.  You only have to make some very minor change such as adjusting the brightness or gentle cropping - just something that makes the photo 'different' enough that you are prompted to save your changes.  That process 'aligns' the photo so that it will upload and post here in the correct orientation. 

Oh, and nice Mini!  And glad you are here.
1988 Austin Mini
2002 MINI Cooper S
2007 Triumph Bonneville

Offline MiniDave

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2020, 10:28:15 AM »
Familiar looking MINI, eh Bruce!  77.gif
1989 Cooper Racing Green
2009 Clubman S
2004 Audi Allroad 2.7 TT

Offline G67mcs

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2020, 10:51:43 AM »
Dave & Bruce,

 Do you know this car and history? I'm sure it's been around a bit. The owner I purchased from had it since 2003.

I've read your posts concerning purchasing parts direct from UK suppliers as that seems to be the most economical way currently.

Heritage certificate just arrived and states it was an NA export, LHD in Island blue/snowberry white with a heater. Build date November 1967 and despatch date January 1968.

Thanks,
Garry
1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner

Offline MiniDave

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2020, 12:08:18 PM »
No, I was referring to the grey MINI on the pic, not the blue Mini!  ;D

Bruce has a grey Cooper S very similar to that one.
1989 Cooper Racing Green
2009 Clubman S
2004 Audi Allroad 2.7 TT

Offline G67mcs

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2020, 10:31:01 AM »
  Ok as mentioned, Heritage certificate lists color as island blue/ snowberry white. Have seen where the BMIHT certs have been slightly off on details for others. In the interior under the rear seat squab and up under dash there appears to be almond green color. There is an "F" number on right front floorboard. Unsure if this number can be tracked as it's not listed in Parnell's book. Car was hydrolastic, but converted to rubber cone suspension at some point.


The grey MINI is my 2003 MCS I purchased new and have enjoyed over the years.

Garry
1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner

Offline MiniDave

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2020, 11:25:18 AM »
Bruce has an '02 twin to it that he bought new, one of the very first Cooper S' in the US, he had to go to New York to get it if memory serves.

I had an Electric blue '03 JCW that I sold to get my current Clubman S.
1989 Cooper Racing Green
2009 Clubman S
2004 Audi Allroad 2.7 TT

Online BruceK

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2020, 12:14:33 PM »
Bruce has an '02 twin to it that he bought new, one of the very first Cooper S' in the US, he had to go to New York to get it if memory serves.

Yup, I had to travel to NY to purchase it because there were no MINI dealers in Texas back in 2002!  Iíve had the car nearly 18 years now and I was just driving it yesterday saying to myself how much I still love the damn thing.  It continues to make me happy.   Iíve noticed the R53 models are starting to gain some cult appreciation - I think in the future the early Cooper S models are going to be loved like the BMW 2002 has been for quite a while.

At a rest stop somewhere in Arizona back in 2016.
1988 Austin Mini
2002 MINI Cooper S
2007 Triumph Bonneville

Offline Scargo

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2020, 05:31:33 PM »
It's not too often that we hear of a heritage certificate being inaccurate on something as major as the original color. 

If I were in your shoes, I would dig deeper on the paint issue by probing other hidden areas and perhaps you'll find the original color somewhere which matches that of the heritage certificate.

Out of curiosity and if you haven't already done so, you might be well advised to check the dates on the wiper motor and boot latch mechanism to see how closely those match up with the build date indicated on the heritage certificate.


Offline G67mcs

Re: 67' MK2 S
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2020, 01:23:42 PM »
Scargo,

 Thanks for your input. Wiper motor date is 11 67' which matches up with the heritage cert. Regarding the boot latch I haven't been able to determine the date stamp on it. The boot is most likely not correct because it is not double skinned. Boot handle is MK3 and above. In various places on the body (boot floor, back seat base, under dash, central horizontal support where seat brackets bolt, rear side pockets, door pockets) I've been able to locate green which appears as the almond color.

Garry
« Last Edit: February 13, 2020, 01:27:18 PM by G67mcs »
1967 MK2 S
2003 Mini Cooper S
2016 4Runner