Author Topic: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?  (Read 2509 times)

Online BruceK

Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2017, 06:00:16 PM »
Seems so simple and logical.  I kinda wonder why we havenít heard of this before now?

I guess the parts suppliers couldnít sell the special tool...
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Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2017, 07:01:33 PM »
May not be out of the woods yet - Some of the Sprite / Midget message boards mention using a thin washer (OEM design) behind the circlip.  This sounds like a pretty good idea, so I'll ask about it at the MG shop.

http://www.mgexp.com/phorum/read.php?3,2326769


The parts:

https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Retain-Ring-5DA81?searchBar=true&searchQuery=5DA81

https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-0-135-3-Wave-302-Stainless-6ZA12?searchBar=true&searchQuery=6ZA12

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Offline jeff10049

Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2017, 08:26:30 PM »
you can also just clamp your circlip in a vise and put a little bend in it or do nothing and it'll be fine too. Most of the time the method people use get the e clip style on there is not much spring left in it in that direction anyway.
At least that's what I have experienced. 
The wave washers would be correct though my car had them and I did use them.

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Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2017, 08:46:44 PM »
Since I can't order the wavy washers from Grangers (an international-shipping restricted item, apparently), my brother is sending some to me. 

The local MG shop has been using just the circlip for decades, both on their road and race cars without problem, but I'd feel better knowing that there's a little less free-play there. 
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Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2017, 10:04:12 PM »
I was rummaging through the MG center's library and thought this was funny - check the 'note'.

Currently researching belleville washer specs - but I believe McMaster-Carr has what is close to the OEM spec - if I can find the OEM dimensions, it'd be really swell.
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Offline MiniDave

Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2017, 06:54:00 AM »
Does the book show a pic of the circlip installation too? I wonder if it's the same as what MiniSpares sell today? Bruce and I both have the too; and find it to be less than successful to use most f the time.

I have to believe if they only made the cone shaped part out of hardened steel instead of butter it would work a treat.......
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Re: Genuine OEM Lockheed (Delphi) wheel cylinders and Mintex shoes?
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2017, 09:36:56 AM »
My MiniSpares circlip tool is also quite scarred, even though it was well greased.

I'm thinking about giving these folks a call to hear if it's as pictured and if it works.

https://www.northwestimportparts.com/MGB-Rear-wheel-cylinder-circlip-install-tool-62-80-d2482.aspx

This is like the one that the MG shop has (17H7949T) and while it has fewer scars than mine, he hasn't used it in years.

http://www.lbcarco.com/ also lists the 17H7949T, but you need to use the 'search' button and there isn't a picture.

Edited again - I just looked at one of the old mini service manuals and it references a circlip and dished washer - I lack a microfiche or comprehensive parts list - the only 'mini' diagram I've got which shows a washer behind the clip uses a current part number 'E-clip' (17H7949) and a washer which is currently unknown to me (17H8901).
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