Author Topic: Formula 1 - 2017 Season  (Read 1478 times)

Offline BruceK

Re: Formula 1 - 2017 Season
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2017, 09:01:38 AM »
Of course I wasn't the only one to see that Bottas had jumped the start.  But now comes news that it was okie-dokie to do so:


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Valtteri Bottas was cleared of jumping the start at the Austrian Grand Prix because any movement his car made before the lights went out was within tolerance limits allowed by the FIA, it has emerged.
The Finn made what he described as the "start of his life" away from pole position in Austria, although his rivals were convinced he had moved before he was allowed to.
F1's data systems indicated that Bottas had reacted within 0.201 seconds of the lights going out, but front row starter Sebastian Vettel doubted that because he believed the Mercedes driver had moved while the lights were on.
Although the Austrian GP race stewards investigated the matter, they ruled in the end that Bottas had not made a false start.

However, that did not stop there being some confusion about why they had reached that conclusion, with television footage widely circulated on social media indicating that Bottas' front wheels were moving while the lights were on.


The FIA has explained, however, that some movement before the lights go out is allowed because of the need occasionally for drivers to make adjustments to their clutch in those crucial moments before the start.

Such a system has been in place for 20 years and has been accepted by all competitors.

The FIA deliberately does not disclose what tolerance is allowed before it takes action, for fear that if teams were aware of what was allowed they would start exploiting this to boost their getaways.

An FIA spokesman said that any movement observed on Bottas' car between the five lights being on and them going out was within this allowed limit which is why the Finn was not deemed to have done anything wrong.

"In today's instance, Valtteri Bottas did not exceed this (very small) limit before the start was given," said the spokesman.
"Simply put: he made an exceptionally accurate and fortuitous judgement call, anticipating the moment the lights went out with great precision.

"Any movement prior to the moment the lights went out was within the tolerances allowed."

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/bottas-start-penalty-austria-fia-928763/
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 09:10:28 AM by BruceK »
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Offline gr8kornholio

Re: Formula 1 - 2017 Season
« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2017, 01:15:26 PM »
Saw this on instagram.  :D
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Offline MiniDave

Re: Formula 1 - 2017 Season
« Reply #52 on: July 16, 2017, 05:25:21 PM »
I knew it couldn't last - Vettel on top in his Ferrari that is.......this was not a good weekend for the boys in the red jammies, both cars having to pit with less than 2 laps left. Vettel still has a 1 point lead, but I think the handwriting is on the wall and it spells Mercedes and Louis Hamilton.

Bottas gave it one hell of a go to finish 2nd and I think he will be the only real challenge for the Hamster the rest of the season.

The Hulk was running 6th in the late going, I still think Renault should sign Alonso and let him finish his career with them - I think they have a good shot at unseating Mercedes...or at least giving them a hell of a challenge - next year. Ricky Racer from 20th to 6th? Hell of a drive too.....

The "torpedo" lives up to his name too, I can't believe they will sign him for next season.....I think he's done.

All in all another typical F1 race - the leader gets a good start and runs off from the rest of the pack. Whoever has bad luck drops out to shuffle the order and that's how they finish........not really racing anymore is it? At least not in the classical sense.....
« Last Edit: July 16, 2017, 05:27:25 PM by MiniDave »
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Offline BruceK

Re: Formula 1 - 2017 Season
« Reply #53 on: July 16, 2017, 07:21:49 PM »
I was kinda hoping it would rain during the race.   But there were some interesting passes going on - love to see Max taking chances and holding ground too.
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Offline flipstah

Re: Formula 1 - 2017 Season
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2017, 01:11:48 PM »
Alonso... Poor Alonso.