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Technical Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: Merlin on July 07, 2014, 10:14:09 PM

Title: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 07, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Last year I purchased a mini from a guy in OKC. I knew that it was not a wise purchase at the time, but I had been looking for one for so long that I impulse bought the car. Needles to say, I was right on...

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/1157476_642180172500471_627295629_n_zps0a33b99d.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/1157476_642180172500471_627295629_n_zps0a33b99d.jpg.html)

The first thing I realized once it was home was that the car smoked quite a bit. The gauges did not work at all and the front valance was so caked in bondo that the blinker mounts were nearly smooth flat.

The last straw was when the fog lights were wired incorrectly and the wiring harness burned the insulation clean off of a ground wire.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2569_zps1mlccjp0.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2569_zps1mlccjp0.jpg.html)

So, time for a project. First rule of a project car is to define clearly what you expect from the car and how you plan to get there.
I want a car that appears classic and stock on the outside, but performs incredibly well in the corners and can out perform a stock corvette in the quarter.

The Teardown:
I was hopeful that the bondo and bad paint would imply poor but managed rust. It turns out that the bondo and bad paint ment that the car was a previous race car with roll cage. Under the rear wheel well covers was extra padding to conceal the dents created by a bolt-in roll cage. The dents imply a wreck. most of the panels have signifigant dents and the floor was patched and replaced. There are rivet fittings screed in the floor and the door stops are destroyed.

Quite a few of the interior parts were trashed or mutilated. The dash pad was drilled and screwed in multiple places. The three gauge cluster was cut and stretched and trashed. Wiring behind the gauge cluster was in fact a cluster-fuck.

A hole in the firewall was cut to clear a Weber carb and the engine was replaced with a Austin America engine with no change to the gearing. The car barely managed more than 65.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2560_zpsqqhyrp5l.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2560_zpsqqhyrp5l.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2561_zpsbb5ohr7u.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2561_zpsbb5ohr7u.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2562_zps2vtzf2sf.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2562_zps2vtzf2sf.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2564_zpsi4ktd8oa.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2564_zpsi4ktd8oa.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2566_zpsw4noz7xz.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2566_zpsw4noz7xz.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2570_zpsxtquou1s.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2570_zpsxtquou1s.jpg.html)
Look at all of the holes drilled in the boot lid for plates.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2571_zpsufoykaqw.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2571_zpsufoykaqw.jpg.html)
Old vs New gauge cluster

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2729_zpsmdbqizre.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2729_zpsmdbqizre.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2775_zpsla4edajd.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2775_zpsla4edajd.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2777_zpsmkwotnsm.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2777_zpsmkwotnsm.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2884_zpsgzgdsgrp.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2884_zpsgzgdsgrp.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2891_zpst3zrajld.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2891_zpst3zrajld.jpg.html)

Step 1: Suspension Repair
The front subframe required the front lip to be replaced as it was used to mount a sump shield. It was dented as well as had a few holes in it. A little plate was cut and welded in its place. quite a bit of hammering was required as well to get all of the dents out of the rest of the subframe. The frame was also seam welded and powder coated with zinc and black.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2881_zpsssq6ceku.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2881_zpsssq6ceku.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2885_zpsbdqokold.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2885_zpsbdqokold.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG3045_zpshw9upxx2.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG3045_zpshw9upxx2.jpg.html)

I also started powdercoating all of the suspension parts as needed.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2904_zps7tndwinj.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG2904_zps7tndwinj.jpg.html)

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Willie_B on July 08, 2014, 03:33:37 AM
You have jumped right into the deep end. But you picked a good site join. My mini has been a 10+ year rolling project. You seem to getting the work done quick so you might be back on the road soon. Good luck.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Mudhen on July 08, 2014, 06:06:55 AM
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Welcome aboard!

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Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: sparetimetoys on July 08, 2014, 06:28:42 AM
Looks like a nice project. Thanks for posting the photos so we can follow along with your adventure.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MtyMous on July 08, 2014, 06:49:09 AM
I will enjoy this thread.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: 94touring on July 08, 2014, 07:53:12 AM
I seem to recall seeing it for sale.  Nice job on the sub frame!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 08, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
Thanks on the subframe Dan. BTW we met a few months ago when I bought the brake booster from you.

I am waiting on a few parts from minispares to finish up the front end, and waiting on the right attitude to finish the rear subframe. I did decided to clean a few parts and cut the front of the mini off. For the record... sawzall over oxy...

Front brake connector needed a little cleaning, so vinegar was used to clean it.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3048_zpsujwphafh.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3048_zpsujwphafh.jpg.html)

Here is the mini before...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3050_zpsxazsehxf.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3050_zpsxazsehxf.jpg.html)
And after...
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3052_zpsnodqj2oo.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3052_zpsnodqj2oo.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3053_zpsqdrbjr83.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3053_zpsqdrbjr83.jpg.html)

I think that this was repaired before. I will clean it back to make sure that it is a good repair.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3055_zpsqdzz9vvb.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3055_zpsqdzz9vvb.jpg.html)





Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Mudhen on July 09, 2014, 02:14:34 AM
Quote from: Merlin on July 08, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3053_zpsqdrbjr83.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3053_zpsqdrbjr83.jpg.html)

Don't leave your car sitting on a ladder like that...it WILL fall off.  Don't ask me how I know... 50.gif  (jk)

Tell us the truth - are you currently working this project or are these file photos...if current - you're busting it out!  I'll take notes.   77.gif
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: 94touring on July 09, 2014, 11:37:28 AM
Oh hey, yes I remember you and you talking about this car!   If you need panels swing on by!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 09, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
Yea, Imma need quite a few panels... I want to do a flip front with removable hood, but I am debating between carbon fiber or steel. The carbon fiber will shed a few pounds and shove the weight distribution back a bit, but the steel is easy to fit and weld on...

Also, anyone have an A+ 1275 stashed away for sale?



Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: 94touring on July 09, 2014, 07:03:03 PM
A steel front end is pretty light as is.  I've considered doing fibre glass doors since those tend to be where the most weight can be shaved in one shot.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: sparetimetoys on July 10, 2014, 05:31:04 AM
Here is a link to a 1275 I was going to get but then the parts car came up. It's only $400 with trans!

http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4482543683.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/pts/4482543683.html)
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 11, 2014, 09:24:42 PM
So a little of what I did tonight.

I had shaved and powdercoated my rear arms before, but had not cleaned the grease out properly. It caused some issues, so I stuffed them into our vat at work and shot  them again.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3057_zpsqyltouax.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3057_zpsqyltouax.jpg.html)

I also started the process of pulling the sheet metal away from the front. There was quite a bit of solder or something to fill in rust gaps. Lots of  bondo as well. Spot welds are sporadic in location which implies that the front has been repaired previously. Burned most of it out with the rosebud. managed to get most if it cleaned off.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3061_zpserymb1ap.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3061_zpserymb1ap.jpg.html)

Bondo was pushed into the blocking plate. At least a 16th inch thick.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3063_zps0fhgken8.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3063_zps0fhgken8.jpg.html)

MMMMmm more bondo
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3065_zpsmmixrp5t.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3065_zpsmmixrp5t.jpg.html)

bronze solder? used to fill in poor fitting gaps. Had to burn most of it out.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3066_zpsoyvr7rnk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3066_zpsoyvr7rnk.jpg.html)

And the other side as well
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3067_zpslvjki4wn.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3067_zpslvjki4wn.jpg.html)

I have quite a bit of rust between the seams of all of the bodies.  Not sure how to go around cleaning that all up.


Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MtyMous on July 12, 2014, 06:21:57 AM
Love the progress. But I seriously don't miss this stage of my build now that it's over. haha
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 12, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
This is the fun part! What is more fun than destruction of your favourite toys!

So I decided that it was time to add some new lighting in the garage as well as move some of the motorcycles around and reorganize all of the mini parts. While outside, I took a few pics of the body.

My rear quarter. This will get cut out and replaced. The rear will get flushed.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3075_zpsrh9vmyti.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3075_zpsrh9vmyti.jpg.html)

Left front windshield.  This looks like shit. I am going to cut this out completely and start again. I am not sure if this is even the correct shape.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3074_zpsxbnz6wof.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3074_zpsxbnz6wof.jpg.html)

My seams. They all look like this.  Not sure how to fix these. Any ideas?
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3073_zpsuynvwybp.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3073_zpsuynvwybp.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3072_zps3yjvhjwi.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3072_zps3yjvhjwi.jpg.html)

More body filler. Wire wheel and blasting will get rid of this.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3072_zps3yjvhjwi.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3072_zps3yjvhjwi.jpg.html)

Right windscreen. This will also get cut and replaced as the panel gap was 3/16". Massive hole as well.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3070_zpsj7lanvuu.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3070_zpsj7lanvuu.jpg.html)

You can see the bronze solder as well as more of the panel holes
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3069_zpsspnynxtg.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3069_zpsspnynxtg.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3068_zpsa0d4c1st.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3068_zpsa0d4c1st.jpg.html)


Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 15, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
Tonight's progress.
I finished the front suspension on the mini, minus the brake cross over pipe. I had the old one, but it was covered in overspray and was not quite up to my standards. Ill bend another one that will tuck in a bit more. I was concerned that the mamba wheels might rub but they clear just fine.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3081_zpskg4ncjv3.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3081_zpskg4ncjv3.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3083_zpsdvpoigkj.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3083_zpsdvpoigkj.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3084_zpsgoar5sy7.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3084_zpsgoar5sy7.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3085_zps9trjvs6a.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3085_zps9trjvs6a.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3086_zpskol61sc4.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3086_zpskol61sc4.jpg.html)

Once the front suspension was as far as I could go, I decided to tear the metal off of the front again. I found nothing but more bondo.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3089_zpswiu0axh9.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3089_zpswiu0axh9.jpg.html)

It wasn't long before I found this little gem... Decided to go ahead and call it a night after finding this massive hole and the huge chunk of bondo.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3090_zps8ub5zdiq.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3090_zps8ub5zdiq.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3092_zpsmqd0vtat.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3092_zpsmqd0vtat.jpg.html)


Should have the rear radius arms complete and Ill start on the back suspension soon.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Mudhen on July 16, 2014, 02:28:42 AM
Quote from: Merlin on July 15, 2014, 08:54:17 PM
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3092_zpsmqd0vtat.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3092_zpsmqd0vtat.jpg.html)

:-\

Suspension looks gorgeous!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Jims5543 on July 16, 2014, 01:29:01 PM
I am so humbled by these builds, I really wish I had time to do something like this. And the space.....
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: 94touring on July 16, 2014, 01:53:55 PM
I like the goop patched hole  :-[
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MtyMous on July 16, 2014, 03:37:45 PM
Which brake setup are you running?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MPlayle on July 16, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
That front subframe looks fantastic!  Although, the shock mounts look to be reversed?  Don't they face the steering arm side (rear) instead of the caliper side (front)?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: Merlin on July 16, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
Time is always tricky. Sometimes you just have to make time. Space is something that just can't be created. I am fortunate enough to have two garage bays to dedicate to screwing with toys.

The brake setup is the Minispares 4 pot setup. I recommend it as it comes with all of the hardware for the swap. Specialist Components came out with a monoblock setup a few weeks ago, but I bought this last Christmas and probably couldn't afford the SC calipers anyway. http://minispares.com/product/Classic/Brakes/Front/C-AJJ4028A.aspx?0401&ReturnUrl=/search/classic/4%20pot%20calipers.aspx (http://minispares.com/product/Classic/Brakes/Front/C-AJJ4028A.aspx?0401&ReturnUrl=/search/classic/4%20pot%20calipers.aspx)|Back%20to%20search

I got the shock mount position  from the rebuild manual. It  may be backwards, but I did look at the orientation in regards to the shock placement on the car. I may be wrong, but Ill worry about that later as the front frame is now in storage and there are still a few things that need to be completed anyway before it gets bolted in the completed car.

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MtyMous on July 17, 2014, 05:51:04 AM
Shock mounts look correct to me. Mine face forward.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project PowerMini (Working Title)
Post by: MPlayle on July 17, 2014, 06:29:20 AM
It is just my mental mistake.   :-[  It was so shiny it caught my attention and I was having trouble visualizing the orientation in relation to the upper shock mount on the body.

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 21, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Got the mini an appointment for the spa. Blasting specialties will be taking her on Aug 4th for a little plastic facial. They tell me that the plastic will tear off paint, bondo and stone-chip. It wont take rust away, which is fine with me as it will leave enough car behind for me to see what the hell is actually rusted instead of ending up with a roof and window pillars...

In the meantime, I ordered pedals from DSN Classics and am refinishing the clutch and brake quadrant. Somehow that damm thing is bent as well.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 21, 2014, 04:21:27 PM
Curious but what do they charge to strip a mini shell?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: sparetimetoys on July 21, 2014, 05:16:15 PM
Just as a point for comparison. Here in DFW the soda blast place is $100 per hour and the dustless ground glass blaster said $3-500 to do the car.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: minifrisco on July 21, 2014, 06:58:35 PM
Is that the quote from the guy in Rockwall?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: sparetimetoys on July 22, 2014, 06:05:44 AM
Quote from: minifrisco on July 21, 2014, 06:58:35 PM
Is that the quote from the guy in Rockwall?

It was just his reply to the email i sent him.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 22, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
They told me to expect between 400-600. When it gets done, ill let yall know.

I have heard that it is best to get a coat of primer on it after, but there is going to be a bunch of rust. should I rattle can the car until the body is sorted? Or get a proper coat of base epoxy and try to remenber where the rust is?

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 22, 2014, 10:52:21 AM
Epoxy primer but just spray around the rust.  Then go back and fix the bad spots.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 22, 2014, 11:44:41 AM
I guess I need to go down to O'reileys and get some mixed between now and then. Ill drag it over to my work and shoot it when its done. Knowing my painting skills, there will be quite a bit of sanding afterwards.

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 22, 2014, 12:46:55 PM
I would try to shoot buff/filler over the epoxy within the flash period to save you an extra sanding session.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 22, 2014, 01:02:50 PM
I'm afraid with all of the rust I am finding  that there wont be much to shoot with epoxy.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 22, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
What you're saying is, you'll be by for a lot of panels.   Need enough stuff and I'll order you a crate.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 22, 2014, 06:52:53 PM
I had a few that were ordered for me from minispares, but I still have quite a few left that need to ordered. When are you going to add a pickup option to your store?

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 22, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
Oh my pickup option is just come by with cash lol. 
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 24, 2014, 07:47:19 AM
Does the parcel shelf panel come with the front dash part that holds the switches? Mine is trashed, bu t I cant see if the front dash is in the stock photo?

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 04, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
I have been doing a bunch of little things lately. I ordered a set of pedal covers and throttle pedal from DSN classics. I stripped and powder coated the brake and clutch box. Had an issue with the pivot bolt bending the shaft, and instead of spending $50 on what might be the right part, I went ahead and chucked it in the lathe and cut the threads off and tapped a new hole.

The car headed off to the blaster today. Barely got it into the trailer.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3166_zpspzwuvkvu.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3166_zpspzwuvkvu.jpg.html)

I am working on the rear suspension, but thought I would take a break to work on the doors. Started with the door locks. Found that the chrome has been trashed by the previous paint job as they were not removed from the car and the sander trashed the chrome. These will get powder coated black. The lock on the left side was trashed as well, so new tumblers are on order.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3161_zpsfhxs7cos.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3161_zpsfhxs7cos.jpg.html)

I had a bad feeling about the doors and went and put them in our acid vat at work. A few days later, the paint would barely come off. Determined that the doors wouldn't clean up because they were smothered in bondo. Noticed that the door skins were trashed, so off they go.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3168_zpskjvpdwsd.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3168_zpskjvpdwsd.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3169_zpsu9zuhgfm.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3169_zpsu9zuhgfm.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3170_zpsyihp3glq.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3170_zpsyihp3glq.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3171_zpsyj0mtoxr.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3171_zpsyj0mtoxr.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3172_zpshtd8bqeh.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3172_zpshtd8bqeh.jpg.html)

Cut the skin off and discovered exactly how trashed these were. Fun Fun Fun
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3173_zps00dgwxee.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3173_zps00dgwxee.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3174_zpspotirbgu.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Morris%20Mini%20Build/IMAG3174_zpspotirbgu.jpg.html)

Do new door skins come with the stiffing piece on the top of the door? Would anyone be interested in making carbon fiber door skins?



Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 05, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
Yes new skins have the stiffener.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: sparetimetoys on August 05, 2014, 06:33:18 AM
When you get your car back can you post up a couple of photos of the rotisary please, also how high off the ground is the bar that runs down the center of the car.  Im getting my metal around to make mine up.  Thanks
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 05, 2014, 07:34:50 AM
http://www.minimania.com/How_To___Build_a_Mini_Rotisserie_for_less_than__200 (http://www.minimania.com/How_To___Build_a_Mini_Rotisserie_for_less_than__200)

I used this as my guide. Made the thing out of stuff i had laying around at our shop.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 05, 2014, 07:48:06 AM
http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/index.php?topic=135.0 (http://www.restorationmini.com/forum/index.php?topic=135.0)
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MtyMous on August 06, 2014, 11:25:21 AM
If you want full.carbon doors, get in touch with roguese7ens.com. they are currently building an entire mini in CF and are specifically working to finish up their full CF doors. I'm personally interested in it for Tink.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 06, 2014, 02:44:11 PM
I am suggesting just carbon fiber door skins. The door skins are more than half of the weight of the door and doing those in CF and bonding them to the frame will reduce weight while not sacrificing roll up windows. the carbon fiber will be stiffer so the strength will be there. You interested?

I am eyeing up Rouge's CF front end for my flip front.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 06, 2014, 03:10:01 PM
I've thought about doing fiberglass doors on my pickup.  But it would be the whole door.  The skins are pretty light as is, and I couldn't justify the cost of the skins vs the minimal amount you'd save in weight.  The door frames on the external hinges, and guts on the internal hinges are where the weight is.  That and glass.  Skins are small potatoes. 
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 06, 2014, 06:20:33 PM
The reason for doing CF door skins would be to maintain roll up glass and hinge mounts. Carbon fiber and fiberglass doors do not allow for roll up windows, stock door cards and anything else you would expect from a street car. I also gain the ability to add a crash bar to my current doors as they lack this and adding a crash bar in steel will further add to the weight. Adding a honeycomb crash bar will stiffen the hell out of the door and weigh ounces. 
http://www.carbonweezel.co.uk/classic_mini/doors.html (http://www.carbonweezel.co.uk/classic_mini/doors.html)

So I did a little measuring and this is what I come up with.

Door structure            11.6Lbs
Door skins (cut off)       7.4Lbs

This shows that 15lbs of car weight is in door skins. Based on a standard density of 0.284 lbs/in^3 we get a total volume of 26.05 in^3 of skin material. compare this to some manufactures CF weight of 0.045 lbs/in^3, we get a design weight of 1.2Lbs for CF door skins.

Is this worth it? Well it depends on how you think about it. Shedding 12.4Lbs is shedding nearly 1% of the cars weight, which is good. It is taking it from behind the CG of the car (70/30), which is not as good.

Since I have access to mold materials and carbon fiber, the question I have is if there is anyone interested in doing this as it will cut the cost of pulling this off. I think that once set up, we can do this for cheap. Materials alone will be ~$60-70 per door(three ply), putting them close to the cost of new metal skins.


So, anyone interested now?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: sparetimetoys on August 06, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
Why not do the center ply out of fiberglass to save cost.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 06, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
I think that it would be possible to do it that way as well. Its just a first idea.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: sparetimetoys on August 07, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
I think it would be ok for later internal hinge doors, but early doors with external hinges may end up screwing up the skin where the hinge bolts pass through the skin.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on December 25, 2014, 08:25:52 PM
HAHA so the forum told me to fuck off as I haven't posted here in 120+ days. Sounds like a good time for an update.

So the mini came back from blast in better shape than expected, but I did find what a shitpile the whole thing was. It was apparent that this was patched together and exported.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3183_zpsqrlipiyo.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3183_zpsqrlipiyo.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3184_zps8dlka0am.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3184_zps8dlka0am.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3188_zpswfpkocgy.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3188_zpswfpkocgy.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3189_zpsvyg1amhs.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3189_zpsvyg1amhs.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3192_zps5p8mwpek.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3192_zps5p8mwpek.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3193_zpsnlhu89zw.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3193_zpsnlhu89zw.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3196_zpstvg2idt8.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3196_zpstvg2idt8.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3209_zpstqdv95ml.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3209_zpstqdv95ml.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3214_zpsanxtnfsr.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3214_zpsanxtnfsr.jpg.html)

A little etch primer sprayed and off it goes back to the house.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3215_zpsnveecito.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3215_zpsnveecito.jpg.html)

So I started with the floors on this car. The floors were bashed in pretty good and they had been bronzed in spots which led me to believe I would find some serious trapped rust. I was right.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3226_zpspqxf3ukt.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3226_zpspqxf3ukt.jpg.html)

Door frames were also part of the ordeal. Couldn't do the floors without doing these at the same time.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3452_zpsbpnxa8v4.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3452_zpsbpnxa8v4.jpg.html)

Kinda shit at this. I ended up learning the hard way on this section. I have welded sheet metal before, but never on a curve. I also realized that I only need a big enough patch as needed. I also learned that the smaller the wire the better...

High build primer is my friend
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3465_zpsbzb8g5gi.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3465_zpsbzb8g5gi.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3468_zpstpbaxtog.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3468_zpstpbaxtog.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3469_zpsrlxivfos.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3469_zpsrlxivfos.jpg.html)

Kinda start/stop on the doors. Not a hard one to do, but I had a few projects that took up some space in the garage for a while and I also revisited the rear subframe.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3450_zpsbkeasqbe.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3450_zpsbkeasqbe.jpg.html)

While working on the body, I also take the time to rebuild a few parts here and there. Thought that it would be a good time to start tearing the engine apart for prep on the dry deck and checking the bores out. Had to build a few tools on the fly (no pun). This little rugged fucker is available for loan for anyone wanting it.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3433_zpsraom1uwk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3433_zpsraom1uwk.jpg.html)

Also, If you have every head me talk about this little joy, you know that everything is screwed up in some way. I couldn't even get lucky on the steering rack, even after I dropped $70 on parts to rebuild. Oh well, who's counting?
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3446_zpsaoe8mxqn.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3446_zpsaoe8mxqn.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3448_zpsgx9fr1gc.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3448_zpsgx9fr1gc.jpg.html)

Speaking of motor upgrades, here is the turbo I planned on using (GT1752). I have since aquired a Saab unit (TB1749?) on a half off sale as I couldn't be bother for now to fix the 1752 unit. Specalist components just released their turbo mount for the K1100 head, so this got much easier.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3492_zpszn3eargk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3492_zpszn3eargk.jpg.html)

I know that I posted it earlier, but this is the fuel mounting ring for my fuel pump setup. I bought a walbro pump and some fuel foam from summit, but have since stopped on this guy as I have had a chat with some plane builders and I am throwing around the idea of a carbon fiber fuel tank and am also having a hard time getting a hold of some 1/2" thick neoprene rubber for a gasket for the below design.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3513_zpspnqzuxki.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3513_zpspnqzuxki.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3514_zpsukfpwcmw.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3514_zpsukfpwcmw.jpg.html)

Speaking of carbon fiber, The boot lid came in after stripping two different metal ones and deciding they were not worth fixing. Got this from Rogue 7 and am by far impressed.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3698_zpsvtjzstuj.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3698_zpsvtjzstuj.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3700_zpsecpna9e3.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3700_zpsecpna9e3.jpg.html)

Oh and as always, I have been powdercoating at work on my spare time. I recently built a big-ass oven for powdercoating as we needed something to do wheels in and motorcycle frames. when I don't want to go out in the garage, I grab a part and clean/fix it and put it on the shelf. Right now, I have pedals from DSN classics, a brand new speedo with 0miles on the clock and an Original Speedwell oil/water split gauge.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3701_zpsq8jkupjy.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3701_zpsq8jkupjy.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3702_zps5th0o6r8.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3702_zps5th0o6r8.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3703_zpsufvmyant.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3703_zpsufvmyant.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3704_zpsvojhzku4.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/IMAG3704_zpsvojhzku4.jpg.html)

I think that caches up show-and-tell for now.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Jims5543 on December 26, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
*slow handclap*

Nice work! Hell of a project. I like the gas tank idea. Curious to see how that comes out.

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on January 09, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
This build reminds me of my E-Type Jag, the further I went the worse it got......I wound up replacing just about every piece of sheet metal from the middle of the doors down, all the floor etc.

Took me 4 years during which I didn't have a girlfriend/wife to bother me.....
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MtyMous on January 09, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Damn... I need those door handles.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 09, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
Quote from: MtyMous on January 09, 2015, 08:33:42 PM
Damn... I need those door handles.

Send me yours and Ill get them done.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MtyMous on January 09, 2015, 11:02:02 PM
I need door handles and boot latch done. What does something like that cost?
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 09, 2015, 11:37:40 PM
hows about free!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on January 11, 2015, 09:51:55 AM
Merlin, if you haven't already bought a replacement, I think you can straighten that steering rack, it's not beyond use. All you need is to set it in a press and gently push it back a little at a time. If you don't have a press you could take it to a shop that works on big rear axles, they straighten stuff all the time.

Of course, a new rack is only about $130 plus shipping......
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 11, 2015, 03:52:10 PM
There is a lot of crap that goes into a rebuild of that little rack and I was balancing price vs time. The biggest hindernace was the lack of  spare parts for rebuilding a steering rack. The pinion bearings are NLA and the retaining cups for the rack to tie rod ends were NLA. The bent rack was the last straw.

$100 later I had a mini spares 2.2 steering rack shipped with new everything.

Ill save the rest of the parts for another stupid-crazy project I have in mind.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on January 11, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
If it's a left drive rack someone here was looking for the internals for another car project....
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 11, 2015, 05:14:19 PM
I have RHD car, but I also have a LHD rack from a MK1 as well.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 18, 2015, 05:56:10 PM
Well, The weather is getting nice again...HaHa.

Working on the doors today. Trying to get them sorted and ready for skin. Need to find some dampener for the doors to put on the skin before I seal them up.

Any ideas?

I also decided to dump some cash. ordered the CF front end in paintable primer and the bonnet in exposed CF to match the boot.
Ordered up a nice batch of crap from Specialist Components as well for the K1100 head swap.

Looks like my ass is going to be back on Cherry Street for a few days to build up my cash flow.

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MtyMous on January 18, 2015, 09:47:41 PM
Hey, let me know how you like the fit and finish of the boot and bonnet. I was talking with those guys about ordering a boot and bonnet for my car, but decided it was pretty low on the priority list. You're making me want to get them again. haha
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on January 18, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
I got it from Jim Jones at Roguese7en, the same guy that did your dash.

I am very impressed with the boot lid. Ill install the hardware soon and see how it fits, but I think I may have a problem with the actual boot as it is pretty beat.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on January 19, 2015, 11:39:42 AM
Man I'm learning about all sorts of new places to send money for Mini parts!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on July 30, 2015, 08:04:46 PM
Well its been a while. Better post what has been going on.

Been working on the mini as a whole. Lots of patching and more patching. Also bought an Eastwood tig welder for my birthday and have basically been going over every single weld I have ever made on this car and have redone it to get the penetration right. Yea, I'm OCD.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_210733_zpsk9teirnk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_210733_zpsk9teirnk.jpg.html)

You might notice a little roll bar action. Got that on MM from a gentleman in Nebraska. Shipping was a cinch as my company happens to spend a lot of money on shipping equipment across the country and our shipping guy happened to have a truck coming back to Tulsa from Minot ND. A six-pack of beer later and it was on a flatbed of a semi heading to my house.


I have had the doors floating around the shop for a while and was inspired by the boys at Bad Obsession on adding the crashbars to my mini doors. You might notice that there is some very similar shit going on here.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_223305_zpscjmoksee.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_223305_zpscjmoksee.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_232228_zpseqampllu.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150729_232228_zpseqampllu.jpg.html)

Added some POR15 to the doors because I never want to do this project again. These doors were shit when I started with them that they were basically bondo. When I was patching them, I tig'd up more pinholes than I care to count. Thank Buddha that the tig torch makes this an easy process.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150730_213208_zpsuwlovxui.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150730_213208_zpsuwlovxui.jpg.html)

Added a little sound deadening to the doors. No sound engineer, but its probably overkill. Least the doors will close easily with all of this inertia.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150730_213216_zpsb69g91hy.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150730_213216_zpsb69g91hy.jpg.html)

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on July 30, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
Nicely done sir
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 03, 2015, 11:12:35 AM
So I got one skin installed last night. Found that the skin was actually 1/4" longer on one end than the other making it a trapezoid of sorts.

After carefully measuring and confirming that the skin was the culprit and not the door frame, I carefully traced the correct position and bent the door skin flange back flat. I then proceeded to bend a new flange and hammer the whole thing on.

I can already see my OCD medication will need to be increased.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on August 03, 2015, 11:32:58 AM
When I put new skins on my Jag doors, I had to build up the edges in some places by welding to match up with the door opening.....

Yours should turn out nicely!

Before I bought Buzz I looked at a bunch of classics, some local. One in particular was so bad as to be laughable - the doors had been "repaired" along the bottom edges with tape, then painted over!

The right fender had been replaced so poorly that it was almost funny, paint had orange peel so bad it made an orange look smooth! You could see light thru the lower A posts from the driver's seat.

The reason I mention it is that it was green with white stripes......
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 03, 2015, 12:39:13 PM
aren't they all? BRG and white is the stereotypical mini color, followed by red and white.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on August 03, 2015, 02:37:22 PM
I think that car was far worse than yours, but I wanted to be sure it wasn't the same car!
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 03, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
I knew mine was shit when I saw it, but it wasn't that bad. I thought I knew what I was getting into, but it was far worse than expected.
My wife is ready for it to be done. She wants to go to the car shows in the fall... don't know which fall yet.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 04, 2015, 12:15:13 PM
I've never given the door skins much thought.  I've never measured them either and they always fit the frame.  Wonder what some of those doors measure that I have sitting in there are.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 04, 2015, 02:10:45 PM
Cheap panels are cheap. I have come to realize that you have to check everything before. That's the difference in heritage panels vs knockoffs.

Doors look good now. Just need to get the floors done and ill go through the process of obsessing over them.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on August 04, 2015, 02:17:51 PM
Ha! BTDT...... :-[
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 04, 2015, 02:20:09 PM
Sometimes heritage don't fit great either.  Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 04, 2015, 03:56:33 PM
They can't possibly fit as shitty as these shitty panels. Money saved, labor burned.
I need to contact my supplier and chew his ass out on these.


DAN!!! WHAT D FUCK! I bet it was the bird shit that shrunk 'em.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 04, 2015, 05:27:33 PM
Ha.  Yeah pretty much any metal work on minis needs a little massaging.  The heritage front end metal I used on one mini was less square than the knockoffs.  Never forget these are cheaply made British cars assembled by hand.  My biggest complaint on the knockoffs I've used was the boot lids had the handle bracket mounts off about a quarter inch, requiring me to cut the section out and shift it over.  The rumor is the factory workers when faced with a poor fitting door would just bend the crap out of them till they fit right, and I must confess I found myself doing it once too.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 04, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
Well the battery box is in. Cut and reshaped it, then bashed the floor in to get it to fit. At least the battery box cover still works.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150803_214749_zpsek70sxj8.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150803_214749_zpsek70sxj8.jpg.html)

Also did a little work on the tubs.
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221129_zpsbkuqhxe8.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221129_zpsbkuqhxe8.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221145_zps4nddkztk.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221145_zps4nddkztk.jpg.html)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221200_zpszu9ao6lp.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150804_221200_zpszu9ao6lp.jpg.html)

Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 05, 2015, 08:34:36 PM
One wheel tubbed. One to go.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/20150805_223034_zpsoanfexpo.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/20150805_223034_zpsoanfexpo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 05, 2015, 08:44:34 PM
Nice. 
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 19, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
So I have got both wheel tubs in and now I am looking to putting the rear valance in as well as the closing panels. I know that the angle of the wheel arch has changed, but how exactly are these suppose to fit? Are they suppose to be flush with the wheel well rear extensions or should I cut the extensions down?

Do the seal plates need to be on the outside flush with the valance? Since I have no original holes for the rear subframe, Should I bolt the subframe in and use it to set the plates?

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150819_221454_zpsembo0ouj.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150819_221454_zpsembo0ouj.jpg.html)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/majourlittle/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150819_221500_zpstdhyovdc.jpg) (http://s121.photobucket.com/user/majourlittle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Morris%20Mini%20rebuild/20150819_221500_zpstdhyovdc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 20, 2015, 04:55:46 AM
You have the closing plates with the subby holes pre drilled correct?  Fit the subby when fitting them if that's the case.  The closing plate face sits flush to the valance.  Then there is a lip that sticks into the wheel well area. 
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: Merlin on August 20, 2015, 05:54:12 AM
Should I cut off the lip that the wheel well makes and beat that closing plate lip over and lap weld it or do I need to dress the closing plate lip and spot weld it to the existing wheel well lip?

I would prefer to cut off the wheel well lip flush with the boot floor and then hammer over the closing plate lip as it is getting ugly in that spot. I also think that will strengthen it a little more.
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: 94touring on August 20, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
Technically the factory lip where it meets the adjoining lip would add strength, but if you modify it and make it pretty it's doubtful it will take much if any away.  Kinda like the premise behind deseaming a mini.  You're just deseaming the closing plate.  Half of the minis I've worked on that area was completely rotted away to begin with, and the subframe wasn't falling off the car...
Title: Re: My first mini disaster: Project BondoRocket
Post by: MiniDave on September 01, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
I'm glad to see you making progress again......I remember going thru this on my old Jag, I replaced so much sheet metal, sometimes I think it would have been easier and cheaper to buy a whole new shell!

Mine wasn't "Project Binky" bad, but not far from it!