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Title: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 16, 2016, 07:07:13 AM
A while back in another thread I tossed out to MiniDave the idea of having one of his style drives down here in the Texas Hill Country outside San Antonio, Texas.  He recently reminded me of that in my Moke thread.

So this posting is to get an idea if people would actually be interested.  I asked MiniDave when his 'spring break' would be for getting a prospective date range.  His response was March 13 - 19.

Since it is likely a bit of a drive for folks to get here, I was thinking of something like: Tues/Wed=travel, Thurs/Fri=drives, Sat/Sun=return travel

This would give a few days at the front of spring break for whatever and permit travel time.  It could also be shifted to allow more travel time or expanded if folks would like three days of drives.

The plan would be to find an inexpensive motel to see about some rooms in one of the smaller towns in the hill country just outside San Antonio as the "base" for the drives.  (Somewhere such as Boerne, Comfort, Bandera, or Kerrville.)

Would folks be interested in actually coming down this far for such a gathering?
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 16, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
I put it out there to my classic Mini group today, it's being considered......the distance is a problem for the KC folks. We'll see what happens......
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 16, 2016, 02:44:26 PM
Keep me posted.  The distance thing was a concern of mine as well, but we'd never know if we didn't put it out there for consideration.

I just found another nice road in the area to work into a drive.

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 16, 2016, 02:57:54 PM
I would think some of the Texas boys would come, BruceK in Dallas plus the guy he met at the last C&C, Justin who bought my old Clubby, maybe the OK boys like Dan and Patton.....
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on October 16, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
If I have the days off I'll go.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 16, 2016, 04:38:48 PM
Dan,

Let us know if you can put in for the days off.  March 13,2017 through March 19, 2017.

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on October 16, 2016, 07:43:10 PM
Great idea.  I'm in!   From many years of driving and also riding motorcycles out there, I know first hand the great roads and interesting places to visit in the Hill Country.   And there are plenty of them!

Since the distance to the Hill Country has been mentioned as a concern, here's a thought:  Why not consider a base toward Austin instead of San Antonio?  It's a bit closer for people coming South and frankly, Austin has more a 'draw' for people to consider going.   And there are many great roads southwest of Austin into the Hill Country.

The time varies each year depending upon the weather, but we might just hit it lucky and find the state will be covered with Bluebonnet wildflowers at that time of the year.

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Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 17, 2016, 07:30:13 AM
Southwest is one of the major growth directions for Austin.  Much of that area has been changing a lot.  It now has lots of traffic and may be harder to locate a motel without having to go through lots of traffic to reach the nicer Mini roads.

I can definitely look into it if the preference is for out of Austin versus Boerne or Kerrville.

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on October 17, 2016, 01:09:13 PM
This is looking like a good drive. Getting there and the event!
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 17, 2016, 01:23:14 PM
So, are you coming then? we'd love to have you along for sure!

Looks like about 13 hours from KC, 14 from Atlanta and 8 from OKC to San Antonio.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on October 17, 2016, 01:47:59 PM
Bare in mind that I never know my schedule till a month in advance. 
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on October 17, 2016, 01:48:31 PM
At least it should be cooler driving weather.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 17, 2016, 01:59:01 PM
It sounds like enough interest to me: Bruce, Dave, Willie-B, myself, possibly Dan, maybe more. (Anyone run it past Dean aka: Dooder?)

I figured if 4 cars would commit, I would set it up.  I will post more details as I work it out.

Do folks want 2 days driving or 3?

If 2 days: 1 day of a couple short runs and 1 "all day" run?

If 3 days: 2 days of shorter runs and 1 "all day" run?
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 17, 2016, 02:04:45 PM
I put up a thread on Motoring Alliance, and I'll put something up on Classic Minis United too.

It's early to be making firm plans so I'd say lets see how many give a firm commitment to determine how much driving to do but I'm thinking to go that far, three days might be fun.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on October 17, 2016, 02:37:30 PM
Quote from: MPlayle on October 17, 2016, 07:30:13 AM
Southwest is one of the major growth directions for Austin.  Much of that area has been changing a lot.  It now has lots of traffic and may be harder to locate a motel without having to go through lots of traffic to reach the nicer Mini roads.

I can definitely look into it if the preference is for out of Austin versus Boerne or Kerrville.

Michael, thanks for the update about that area.  I have to remind myself that things haven't necessarily stayed the same there since I moved to DFW. 
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 17, 2016, 07:33:34 PM
Bruce,

You would not recognize the IH-10 corridor out to Boerne anymore.  There is development of one sort or another all the way out.

At least staging out of Boerne (or one of the other possibilities in the area) will put the motel right at the start of some nice Mini roads.

For the hill country southwest of Austin, I would have to investigate staging out of Dripping Springs or Wimberly.

New Braunfels or San Marcos might also be options.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 18, 2016, 08:19:17 AM
I posted a short note on CMU's Facebook Page and on Motoring Alliance, we'll see if any interest comes up from those sources too.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on October 18, 2016, 08:31:52 AM
I showed Dean this post.  We may see if Patton can trailer down a batch of cars. 
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 18, 2016, 10:01:42 AM
My post on the Classic Minis United Facebook page has been seen by 37 people so far....if anyone contacts me I'll direct them to this thread for details, maybe we'll get a few new members that way too.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Dmulder on October 19, 2016, 06:40:56 PM
I'd be interested but that would be a very long drive for me. I used to live in S.E? Texas in the Golden Triangle as they called it (Port Arthur).  If I did this I would have to trailer down. Maybe I could stop in KC and pick up my brother in law on the way.

Side note - anybody thought about doing Mini on the Mac? It is scheduled for Aug 5 2017. Attempt to break a world record and drive over the mighty Mackinac Bridge from the lower penninsula of Michigan to the Upper Penninsula. Great event great roads great views.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 19, 2016, 06:48:54 PM
Yep, pick up the bro and come on down! I plan to tow mine to San Antonio.....
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 19, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
Since the interest is growing and Dave mentioned that for the distance, three days of drives would be nice, I will plan around the following schedule:

March 13/14 (Mon/Tues) = Folks traveling to the gathering
March 15/16/17 (Wed/Thurs/Fri) = Drives in the Texas Hill Country
March 18/19 (Sat/Sun) = Folks traveling home

I will get on locating a motel suitable for the gathering (ample parking for folks trailering and reasonable cost).

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 29, 2016, 04:07:08 PM
It's early days yet, but it looks like if everyone can make it we could have about 10 cars - that's a good workable number for a run like this.  4.gif

Bruce K
Dave C
Dan S
Justin D
John S
Susan M
Mike P
WillieB
Dooder
Patton
Don I

so far have all expressed interest in going......that's 11 right there. Invariably there will be some last minute drop outs, but it still should be a good sized group.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on October 29, 2016, 05:15:22 PM
Which "Mike" is on your list (me or another "Mike")?

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on October 29, 2016, 06:10:36 PM
I did not get shot down when I brought it up so it is still the top of my to do list.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on October 29, 2016, 07:23:28 PM
You Mike, and I forgot about WillieB!
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 01, 2016, 09:31:51 AM
Moving forward on this:

Where: Basing out of Kerrville, Texas.
Dates:
- Arrive and check-in March 13, 2017 (Monday)
- Check out and depart March 17, 2017 (Friday)
Lodging: At Econo Lodge in Kerrville
- 2105 Sidney Baker St., Kerrville, Texas 78028
- (830) 896-1711

I have 10 rooms being held under my name (Michael Playle) with a confirmation number (492572452).  The rate will be $49 per night plus tax.

To convert a room to in your name: Call the direct number (above) and let them know you are wanting one of the rooms held in my name with the confirmation number.  They will get your name and credit card information and put the room into your name.

I know it is early, but due to Spring Break, March tends to be busy for them and I wanted to get the minimum number of rooms as soon as possible.  We can possibly add more rooms if necessary and they are available.  Unused rooms will be released about February 1, 2017.

I will convert one of the rooms for myself in the next day or two.

Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 02, 2016, 09:35:32 AM
My room booked.
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on November 02, 2016, 09:49:48 AM
I just booked my room. 



And I took a look of the motel on Google street view.

Noticing the 3 white boxes labeled with "Mini's" in front of the motel, this must mean that Michael has arranged for suitable-sized portable garages for the first 3 to register!  :)
Title: Re: Possible "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on November 03, 2016, 02:50:42 PM
Thanks for moving this forward Michael.

Perhaps the title of this thread should be changed to "Definite Spring Drive" ? 

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 03, 2016, 02:57:34 PM
Main title changed.

I've been working on prospective drive routes.  I'll be previewing each one in the near future.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on November 04, 2016, 09:33:15 AM
Add my buddy Don with the Vtec Pup to the list, he's got it on his calendar. The only thing that would stop him is that he's self employed, if work comes in he has to favor it over play time, but he's penciled in.

I booked my room as well, but I won't arrive Kerrville till the 14th

My plan is to drive to Dallas on Monday, overnight there, then on to Kerrville the next day. Don will probably drive with me, and if others want to meet up in Dallas to overnight (Willie B, Susan, John S, Don?) then we could caravan down together on Tuesday.

I also posted this on the KC Mini Club forum....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 04, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Dave,

Wouldn't arriving Tuesday would cut down one day of driving for you?

To make sure we didn't get hit with a "weekend" rate increase, the dates got shifted forward one day (at least I thought/planned such):

Travel in: Sun/Mon (March 12 & 13)
Drives: Tues/Wed/Thurs (March 14,15,16)
Travel home: Fri/Sat (March 17 & 18)

I hope I didn't screw up.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on November 04, 2016, 03:28:26 PM
Sorry, I must have missed the update, the days don't matter to me so I can call and change it back, no problem.......thanks for the heads up on that!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 04, 2016, 06:24:27 PM
Dave,

It is as much my error as anything.  I did not get the information out clearly. :(  :-[

For all:

The current details are as follows.

The agenda:
Travel in: Sun/Mon (March 12 & 13)
Drives: Tues/Wed/Thurs (March 14,15,16)
Travel home: Fri/Sat (March 17 & 18)

The details:
Where:
- Basing out of Kerrville, Texas.
When:
- Arrive and check-in March 13, 2017 (Monday)
- Check out and depart March 17, 2017 (Friday)
Lodging:
- At Econo Lodge in Kerrville
- 2105 Sidney Baker St., Kerrville, Texas 78028
- (830) 896-1711

I have 10 rooms being held under my name (Michael Playle) with a confirmation number (492572452).  The rate will be $49 per night plus tax.

To convert a room to in your name: Call the direct number (above) and let them know you are wanting one of the rooms held in my name with the confirmation number.  They will get your name and credit card information and put the room into your name.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 27, 2016, 09:40:06 AM
Still refining some portions of the routes.  Nothing like the maps showing a very nice squiggly road to find it turns into a private, gated ranch road.

A couple more segments to preview/verify.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on November 27, 2016, 09:49:07 AM
As long as it's paved...  ;D
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on November 27, 2016, 10:37:38 AM
Electronic controlled access gate and fencing blocked the way.

::)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on January 04, 2017, 11:39:36 AM
Just made the hotel reservation for the drive.

Now for the route plan and reservations.

Looks like my wife is going to fly out at the end. We will have a couple of days to hang out in San Antonio then 2 days drive home.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 04, 2017, 01:10:36 PM
That sounds like "fun"   ;D

She's really up for a two day drive in the Mini, or are you going to tow down and back?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on January 04, 2017, 02:15:22 PM
Going to flat tow it.

She is good for a ride in the mini once a year out to get ice cream.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 04, 2017, 02:36:54 PM
Yeah, mine has about the same amount of enthusiasm for my Minis......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: John Gervais on January 04, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
Add mine to the list of 'enthusiasts' -  11.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on January 04, 2017, 04:09:55 PM
My ex wife daily drove one of my minis for years.  Then she bought a bini during the divorce. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: John Gervais on January 04, 2017, 07:37:04 PM
I remember that -
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 05, 2017, 07:12:46 AM
Getting closer.  I'm getting excited!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Dmulder on January 05, 2017, 08:45:37 AM
Isn't the Houston Rodeo also in March. I lived in Port Arthur Texas for 4 1/2 yrs. spent lots of time in Houston and took several trips out west towards San Antonio, New Braunsfell, and Kerville. Never had a mini then. I'd love to come on the trip. especially if the blue bonnets are in bloom and we can stop at the Blue Bell Ice Cream factory. Maybe I can convince my wife to do it if I tie the Rodeo into it somehow. She grew up going to the rodeo every year.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 05, 2017, 09:32:08 AM
I don't know when the Houston Rodeo is.  The Blue Bell Ice Cream factory is between Houston and San Antonio (closer to Houston) and the drives are out of Kerrville (the opposite side of San Antonio from Houston).

The wild flower season down here varies widely.  If we have a mild winter, early spring, they may be abundant.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 05, 2017, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: BruceK on January 05, 2017, 07:12:46 AM
Getting closer.  I'm getting excited!

Got Emma ready to go?

I was just making a list today of things I need to do to the Racing Green Mini......drill out the front mount holes for my tow bar, put it back on the alignment machine and reset the suspension one more time - it drives OK, just looking for some marginal improvements, and the springs have settled  little bit.

Oil and filter change.

Still haven't rebuilt the front calipers, will probably redo the rears while I'm at it since I found a slight leak in one of the rear wheel cylinders.

I'm thinking about using a stock air cleaner - these K&Ns are noisy! - I have one but I'd need to do some adapting to make it work as it's off a later car.

Still can't decide whether to pull the engine and change the final drive or leave it alone....it runs well as it is and as I'm not driving it to Texas but towing it I don't have to worry about driving 14 hours at 4K RPM.......

Happy with the dash and instruments at last, but I have a nasty rattle in the heater now.

I'm sure there's more.......there is always more to do on a Mini  ;D
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 05, 2017, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: MiniDave on January 05, 2017, 10:01:54 AM
Quote from: BruceK on January 05, 2017, 07:12:46 AM
Getting closer.  I'm getting excited!

Got Emma ready to go?


No.  It's too cold in my garage to work on her.   I bought a space heater at Lowe's over the weekend, but it doesn't seem to be up to the task.   I'm going to return it and look for something a little better.

I don't really need to do anything to the car in order to take it on the Spring Drive, but I'd like to install new front subframe mounts since the current rubber mounts are shot (that would make it much easier to attach the towbar too), and I should change out the front wheel bearings too.  And while I've got that apart, I should install new brake discs too.   And might was well install new rear drums and shoes.

Also, I'd like to change out my current Group 2 wheelarches to the W&P style (already have them) which would allow me to lower the car a bit (I think it currently sits too high), but again, not really needed to be done by Spring Drive time.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 05, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Cold? In Texas?????   ;D

It's 6* here today....... ::)

I'll take my car up to school to do the alignment and suspension work, the rest will have to wait till it warms up a bit more.....

Obligatory cars in the snow pic from this morning......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 05, 2017, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: MiniDave on January 05, 2017, 11:34:33 AM
Cold? In Texas?????   ;D

It's 6* here today....... ::)

I can't beat your 6 degrees, but it was 28 degrees here last night, and it will be 19 degrees overnight tonight.   Too cold for me to work in an unheated garage.   

Wonder if I could talk my wife into letting me bring my Mini into the nice, warm house...

Looks like it would fit in the living room right under a recliner.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 05, 2017, 06:33:59 PM
I have one segment to still preview on the routes.  I am hoping for a chance to get that done soon.

I'm looking forward to meeting everyone there.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 08, 2017, 09:33:01 AM
We got down to -6* before Canada closed the door and it started warming up again - now we're into the teens!

Looks like a solid turnout - 4 from the KC area - Don Ipock with his Vtec P'up, John Styers with his '66 Cooper S, Susan McKensie with her hot rod '62 Mini (big HP 1380!), and me with my Racing Green '89 are all coming for sure, Bruce from Dallas, WillieB from Atlanta, Justin from Kilgore with Buzz, my old Clubman Estate and Dan if he can make his schedule work.

DMulder is considering, Dooder's engine in his 66 is being rebuilt but if done in time he could possibly go, Stan in Lawrence is trying to finish his in time.......plus of course our host MPlayle....

So I count 8 real sures, a couple maybe if's, and a few I'd like too if's......

Going to be a fun trip meeting everyone and doing our Mini thing!  4.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 08, 2017, 05:51:44 PM
Copying some information from a side track on my Moke thread to here for keeping folks advised.

Quote
From Moke thread:

Life and being caregiver for my mom has been taking most of my time.  She has not been doing very well this winter.  Her cancer is in remission, but the toll of the chemo treatments left her frail, topped off with dad's rapid passing in August and all the stress of getting his military, VA , and Social Security benefits and the various financial stuff dealt with has really weakened her.  This week has not been one of her better ones - I am spending the next few nights over to watch over her.  Also been working out arrangements for a new apartment for me that will accommodate both of us so she won't be in her condo alone - that happens mid February.

I've put in a request to one of my brothers for relief for the March drives.  We'll see how it goes.


My brother was down this weekend and confirmed he will be down to cover looking after our mom the week of the drives so I may have the break.  My mom and I will be moving into a new apartment together in mid/late February so I can better look after her.


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on January 08, 2017, 07:31:34 PM
I love it when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 09, 2017, 02:27:44 PM
I'm building a flat tow bar for Susan next week or so, she's going to tow her Mini down with her Veloster. I think John will trailer or flat tow his too.....

As Tim Gunn says "make it work!"   ;D
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 14, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
Today I mounted my towbar on the green Mini.

Normally I'd want to take it off once I reach my destination, but this thing fits so well and is unobtrusive enough that I think I'll just leave it on, both till we head to Texas and on the drives.

I'm debating on whether to build one like Dan's for Susan's Mini or just to duplicate this one, the difference is Dan's fits into the lic plate brackets and mine goes over them.....mine will work on either round nose or Clubman front ends, Dan's will only work on round nose front ends as the lic plate brackets are in different places.


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on January 14, 2017, 10:56:02 AM
Very good 4.gif. Only thing I will say is the closer you get it to the car (behind the plate) the more stable it becomes.  We do have a prototype cross member in the shop for this very thing.  Might be of interest to you.  Justin intended/intends to make a batch to resale.  We just need a test car for fitting.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 14, 2017, 12:27:13 PM
That's why (at BruceK's suggestion) I welded the whole mess together, it's solid as a rock. I also used Grade 8, 1/2" bolts to attach it to the car, and those are welded into the bar too.

It worked a treat when we towed WillieB's car down from Omaha, and that was about 180 miles.

But when I do Susan's I may revert to your design, since it will most probably only be used on her car.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 14, 2017, 12:34:03 PM
Quote from: 94touring on January 14, 2017, 10:56:02 AM
Very good 4.gif. Only thing I will say is the closer you get it to the car (behind the plate) the more stable it becomes. 
Yeah.  When I had a Moke I shortened the on-car piece quite a lot since with the front of a Moke you are dealing with a completely flat-face design and there is no need to extend out for license brackets or for body curvature.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 14, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
I've been debating between a tow bar or a small trailer for my Moke.  Considering one of the "DropTail" brand trailers.

http://www.droptailtrailers.com (http://www.droptailtrailers.com)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 14, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
Quote from: MPlayle on January 14, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
I've been debating between a tow bar or a small trailer for my Moke.  Considering one of the "DropTail" brand trailers.

I recommend a tow bar.  Much simpler and much cheaper too. 

Last Summer, before heading to the Mini Meet in San Diego, I was calculating how many miles I've flat towed a Mini over the years.  It was about 7,000 miles at that time going to various Mini Meets back in the 80s and 90s.  Then, by going to/from the Mini Meet I added at least another 3,200 miles to my total.

So I've got over 10K miles flat towing.  And never had a problem.   And my first tow vehicle was a '87 Mitsubishi Mirage Turbo (not much more than 100hp/165 lbs ft of torque), and my latest is my '02 Cooper S with 163hp (actually a little more since I have a supercharger pulley on it).   My point is that it really doesn't take much of a tow vehicle to tow a Mini.  Even a small hatchback will do just fine.

The only negative at all with flat towing a Mini is you can't back up.  But by staying observant as you pull in to each location means you won't have too.  Besides, backing a trailer is no picnic either.


Here's a photo of my cars and MiniDave in exciting Pecos, Texas on the way home.


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 14, 2017, 08:04:50 PM
I've had a 50-50 experience rate with flat towing a Mini behind a MINI.  The first was a Moke and it towed from Austin, TX to Denver, CO and back fine. (I went up to the British Conclave show.)

The bad was towing a Saloon from Austin to Fort Worth.  The failure was due to not having a rigid cross piece between the arms of the tow bar and too much spacing of the tow bar mounts away from the front panel of the Mini.  The grade-8 bolts experienced too much flex and one sheared and the other bent badly.  Fortunately, I was in an empty parking lot going very slow as I was stopping to check the condition of the rig on a "gut feeling" that something did not seem right.

My tow car currently is my 2016 MINI Clubman.  I already have the hitch and wiring installed.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 14, 2017, 09:01:47 PM
Michael, I can understand how that experience would give you some concerns.

My towbar is nearly 30 years old, originally purchased from MiniCity back when they were the primary Mini parts supplier in the US.   

I thought it was pretty well-made, but I loaned to a fellow Mini enthusiast who was a recent immigrant to the US from Germany.  He was German in the true sense, and very much a perfectionist.  He took one look at my towbar and told me he could improve it.  He welded in cross-bracing, enclosed the angle iron, and even put a goose-neck on it, explaining that it would help the towbar remain level, instead of reaching up to the tow vehicle. 

In short, it is a bit over-engineered.



Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on January 14, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
Now I want to make one  77.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 15, 2017, 08:17:31 AM
If I had just the Moke, I would be much more inclined to go with flat towing and save the trailer costs.  However, I still have the sidecar rig and had wanted to start taking it to some further away British car/bike shows and trailering would be much kinder on me than riding it there and back.

The sidecar rig is for sale.  If it goes soon, I will likely go with a flat-towing the Moke.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 15, 2017, 11:08:13 AM
That new Clubby will haul it just fine.

I towed my 3K# boat with my '83 Audi 5000 automatic - all 115 HP of it - of course it was just across town to the boat ramp, not across the country, and there were no mountains involved. Shoot I even hauled it down to the ramp once behind my VW Rabbit pickup - but that was scary as the boat tended to "drive" the truck, especially around corners!

Point being, like Bruce says, it doesn't take a lot of HP, as long as you're not pulling mountains.

We used to haul my race Sprite all over the Midwest on a trailer behind a 122 Volvo wagon.....just don't get in a hurry......but once up to speed it rolled right along.

I'll be flat towing my green Mini behind my '09 Clubman S this spring....at least that's the plan.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 15, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
When I towed the previous Moke to Colorado, it was behind a 2002 MINI Cooper-S.  It handled the mountains just fine.  Got some strange looks from other traffic, but did just fine.  I did not use a cross support on the Moke as the tow bar mounts were just barely in front of the front panel on short bolts (1/2" grade-8 bolts).

The towing of the Saloon when the tow bar broke loose was with the same tow vehicle (2002 MCS).  I am convinced it failed due to how I had it installed on the classic Mini - insufficient cross-support and too long mounting bolts to put the tow bar in front of the plate brackets.

I'm not worried about the 2016 Clubman flat-towing the Moke.  I was going to "dual purpose" the trailer - carry either the bike/sidecar rig or the Moke.

If I do a tow bar on the current Moke, it will include a cross brace/support even if I got away without on the first Moke.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 16, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
Thought I'd add a few more photos of the Hill Country.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on January 16, 2017, 02:27:23 PM
I've been using Google's satellite and Earth views to recheck the one route and it turns out part is still unpaved.  That route will be scrapped and a replacement is being determined.

I am looking at replacing the bad route with one that will include the Willow City Loop that Bruce mentioned.

The "Stonehenge" that Bruce showed a picture of is on one of the planned routes (and will be a planned stop).  It got moved in recent years as the property it was originally built on got sold.  The nearby town's art council relocated it to a town park. 

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: John Gervais on January 16, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Cool!  That looks like a really great ride!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on January 20, 2017, 12:15:44 PM
Hey Guys,

Just wanted to chime in here and say I have penciled this in on my calendar. I'm Justin, the adopter of Dave's 80' Clubman Estate. Hard to believe I have had him almost a year. We'll celebrate our anniversary right before this Drive.

I say penciled in, only because I have this one thing looming that may affect my plans. I did make my room reservation this morning, so that is one step closer.

I live in East Texas (Kilgore), so it's about 6 hours for me. Planning to arrive on Monday.

Buzz and I have been itching for another road trip, after our successful 5400 mile journey during MTTS last summer.

Fingers crossed that everything on my agenda falls into place so we CAN make it.


Justin
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 20, 2017, 12:47:22 PM
Make it so, Justin!   77.gif

Hope to see you both there, I'd love to say hi to Buzz again!    19.gif

Looks like my friend Don with the Vtec P'up is waffling, may have to shore him up again, but we're running out of time.....

I'll be building a tow bar for Susan the next few weeks, so she'll be ready for the epic drive too.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on January 20, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
Hi Justin! 

It would be great to have you and Buzz on the Spring Drive(s).   
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on January 27, 2017, 09:23:54 AM
Did you all see Madness Autoworks has opened a new shop in Spicewood, Texas?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on February 04, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
I'll be staying in the Austin area most likely.  Are the roads we're driving on north of Kerrville?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 04, 2017, 06:43:38 PM
Dan,

Some of the roads are north of Kerrville, some are south, some are east and some are west.



Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 05, 2017, 08:56:57 AM
To give folks a chance to scope a bit of the areas where the drives will go:

I have one short, one medium and one long drive planned.  I have a couple variations on the long drive available.

The "Short" drive goes Kerrville to Comfort to Luckenbach to Boerne and back to Kerrville.  (Runs mostly east from Kerrville, some northeast, some southeast.)  Lunch planned at a small burger place on the Boerne town square.  (Could possibly find a reasonable 'taco' place.)

The "Medium" drive goes Kerrville to Fredricksburg to Llano (via Enchanted Rock) back to Fredricksburg (via Willow City Loop) and back to Kerrville.  (Runs mostly north from Kerrville.)  Lunch planned at Cooper's BBQ in Llano.

The "Long" drive (and variations) goes Kerrville to Medina to Leakey and areas beyond and back to Kerrville (via Hunt to stop at the Texas Stonehenge).  (Runs mostly west and south from Kerrville.)  Lunch planned at a burger/bbq place in Leakey.

I have a restaurant contact in Kerrville (family friends) that runs one of the best steak houses in Texas with perhaps the best wine list in Texas.  I had figured one dinner would be there (the Cowboy Steakhouse).  I can probably ask them for recommendations of other types of food in the area for other dinners.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on February 05, 2017, 09:48:24 AM
Mileage wise what is short, medium and long?  The CMU drives in the mountains every 18 months average 70-100 each day.  Easy days of fun with several stops to regroup as there are usually 60 cars or so.

Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 05, 2017, 12:01:12 PM
Short = about 125 miles
Medium = about 140 miles
Long = about 260 miles (maximum, depending on variation)

The maximum of the "Long" drive includes a modified version of the "Three Sisters Roads":

http://www.motorcycleroads.com/75/555/Texas/The-Three-Sisters-(AKA-The-Twisted-Sisters)--Ranch-Roads-335-336337a.html (http://www.motorcycleroads.com/75/555/Texas/The-Three-Sisters-(AKA-The-Twisted-Sisters)--Ranch-Roads-335-336337a.html)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on February 05, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
I hope there's a gas station on the 260 mile leg!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 05, 2017, 12:53:07 PM
Yeah, I'll need to bring an extra 5 gal tank!  4.gif

I think my car is getting about 20 mpg these days.......260 miles is a long day behind the wheel, after driving 800 to get there....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 05, 2017, 12:59:54 PM
There is at least one gas station in Leakey and one in Camp Wood.  The "Three Sisters Roads" run has the least fueling options.

I have no idea of the fuel "efficiency" of the Moke, so will be fueling often and using GPS for a speedometer.  I will also likely be carrying a couple gallons of spare fuel, possibly more if I get a larger "jerry can" to accessorize the Moke.

The longest possible section of the Long drive is about 95 miles (outbound Kerrville to Leakey).  All of the other drives have shorter segments and lead to places with more fueling options along the way.

I had figured the "Long" drive for the second day.


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 05, 2017, 01:11:45 PM
Sounds like fun to me - I'm in for everything!  4.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 07, 2017, 02:45:14 PM
Trying to talk Rose into doing what WillieB's wife is ....fly in at the end and spend a couple of days in southwest Texas.

Her one question to me when I suggested it.......Why?   ::) ;D

I can bring a couple of plastic 5 gallon fuel containers with me if we want them along just in case.

If he comes (which right now he is planning to do) we'll have Don's trucklette to carry them in.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on February 07, 2017, 03:14:58 PM
I have a 2 gallon can I'll probably bring just in case. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 07, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
I have 2 standard 1 gallon plastic ones already.  I also ordered a steel 5-gallon jerry can style for mounting on the rear of the Moke.  The steel one should arrive in a few days.

On many of the drives I've led in the past, I have carried the 2 small plastic ones and ended up not needing them.  It is one of those "better safe than sorry" items to be shared as/if necessary.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: susan on February 07, 2017, 08:44:28 PM
Hi everyone....finally got the Mini over to Mini Dave and he got my bar and a bunch of other things, however I still need to get the wiring done on the hitch and straighten out carb issues!  It's always something!!! 
But, I just made the hotel reservations, so I'm in and the pressure is on!  Tomorrow I make kennel reservations for the dog here at home.....Looking forward to meeting everyone!
Susan
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 08, 2017, 07:41:05 AM
So Dave,

What does the "head count" for the drive look like now?

It will help if I can give at least the steakhouse a "heads up" on how many we might be.

Cheers,
Michael Playle

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on February 08, 2017, 08:29:35 AM
As of today ... "Still In"

Mike, glad to see you have the "Twisted / Three Sisters" planned.
I have never had done this in any of my Mini/MINIs, only on two wheels.
Very much looking forward to this!!! 4.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 08, 2017, 09:08:32 AM
With Justin we stand at 9, including you - our host.

Unless someone new pops up or someone unexpectedly drops out I think that's going to be the number. Dooder's engine is still apart, haven't heard from Patton and the Priep's extended their regrets. Of the other sites I posted up the trip on I got zero responses, and the other classic Mini folks in this area aren't able to go for one reason or another. Maybe one of the folks Bruce talked to at C&C might come?

9 to 10 is a good workable sized group tho, much larger and it can become unwieldy and difficult to keep the group together. Going to be fun, I'm really looking forward to the rides.

Mike Playle
Brad Roussele
Dave Craven
John Styers
Susan McKenzie
Don Ipock
Dan Stoughton
Justin DuPont Crouse
Bruce Kennedy
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on February 08, 2017, 09:31:27 AM
I'll have the slow 998 in the rear of the pack.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 08, 2017, 09:38:03 AM
You won't be slow, based on our last run!

I'm thinking the Moke might be the slowest one of our group?

Before we hit the road we should make sure we all have each other's cell numbers. We could do that Monday night when we get to the hotel I guess.....I think I have everyone's except Mikes.......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 08, 2017, 09:38:36 AM
And I'll be the even slower 850 leading!   :D

MiniDave beat me to posting!

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 08, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
With 850 cc's of rip roaring power, you can only do so much!  62.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 08, 2017, 09:48:34 AM
In a flat faced Moke as well.  (Add an effective 'drag chute' if driving with the top up - has a non-opening rear window.)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on February 09, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
Had to share.........

WHERE TO SEE THE BEST BLUEBONNETS IN 2017
http://www.jasonrweingart.com/blog/2017-texas-bluebonnet-forecast-and-best-locations#.WJx53JhlnkU.facebook
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 09, 2017, 09:42:56 AM
Nice.....thanks Justin!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 09, 2017, 11:45:23 AM
We will be hitting #2 on one of the drives.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 09, 2017, 02:58:24 PM
I heard it was 86 in SA yesterday! Crikeys!!   :-\
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on February 09, 2017, 04:04:19 PM
Quote from: susan on February 07, 2017, 08:44:28 PM
Hi everyone....finally got the Mini over to Mini Dave and he got my bar and a bunch of other things, however I still need to get the wiring done on the hitch and straighten out carb issues!  It's always something!!! 
But, I just made the hotel reservations, so I'm in and the pressure is on!  Tomorrow I make kennel reservations for the dog here at home.....Looking forward to meeting everyone!
Susan

Hey!  Welcome.  Looking forward to meeting you and seeing your Mini.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 09, 2017, 05:51:11 PM
Yes, it was that temperature here yesterday.  About 20* above what is supposed to be our normal temps.  Today was much cooler - upper 60's.  Supposed to fluctuate between low 60's and upper 70's for the next 10 days.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 15, 2017, 03:28:57 PM
Our Spring event is rapidly approaching, and I for one have a ton of things to do before I hit the road for Texas!

Not the least is to get well, this flu or whatever it is is really hanging on.....I'm dead tired of being sick, that's for sure.....and its keeping me out of the shop - I've missed at least a week of shop time so far.

Still to do, change out Don's ball joints and some other light odds and ends on his P'up, plus he needs to get his new tires rebalanced. He also bought some Minifins and new shoes, so we'll be redoing his rear brakes too.

On Susan's car I need to do some carb work and change the oil but she's pretty much good to go...some practice time towing would be a good idea for her tho.

On my RG car I need to fix the rattling heater door, install some new engine steady bushes, change the oil and filter and one more try on the alignment and tire balance. Maybe play with shock settings a bit too. I also need to rebuild my front calipers and rear brakes.

I think Styer's car is ready to go...tho we need to sit down and plan our route yet.

Lastly, I have to finish the wiring and hitch install on my blue Clubbie, plus it's thown a code which I think will turn out to be the diverter valve......but I will need to get that fixed too - for sure!

So, on to preparations....I hope everyone else's Feb is going better than mine! Could be worse tho, could be snowing......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on February 15, 2017, 04:13:43 PM
Sorry to hear you are still under the weather Dave.  Hope you feel back to normal soon.


I had to work through last weekend, but this weekend I don't, so I plan to give my Mini some attention.   I plan to change out front (and maybe rear) wheel bearings.  And, "as long as I'm in there" I might as well install new discs, new pads, and, if I work on the rear bearings, I might was well check on the shoes and drums and install new ones if needed. 

That will be my goal on Saturday.   

On Sunday, I plan to try to change out all front subframe mounts.   I haven't done that with the engine still in the car before, so it will be a new thing for me.   I plan to use poly upper subframe mounts, new regular rubber rear mounts, and keep the same stock teardrop front mounts as those were brand new last year and already have been enlarged for the towbar.

To change the mounts, I think I will just need to: 

1) disconnect the hard hydraulic lines for the brakes and clutch at the firewall
2) disconnect the upper engine steady (and And, "as long as I'm in there" I might as well install new poly bushes)
3) remove junk (e.g. washer fluid, wiper motor, etc.) to get at both tower locations
4) remove all the mount bolts (but leave the front teardrop ones attached?).
5) lift up the body at the front toe boards slightly, and I am hoping that will allow enough room to remove the very used up rubber top mounts and slide the poly ones in


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 16, 2017, 10:18:27 AM
The real kicker is the weather's been pretty nice for Feb, it's one thing if it's 8* down there, but it's been as warm as the 50's and 60's - prime shop weather!

Still sick (but not contagious, according to my consulting medical professional) as of today, but maybe on the upward slope again....we'll see how I feel after class today.

You have a lot to do too, but you can accomplish a lot in a good solid day in the shop, especially if the weather's nice. As long a you don't get distracted by the motorcycle sitting forlornly in the corner...... ;D

Good luck on the subframe mounts, post up some pics, especially if it works (I think it will)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 16, 2017, 10:23:02 AM
Well, I don't have my motorcycle distraction anymore.  I sold the cycle/sidecar rig yesterday.  One less thing to move, one less distraction, more funds for the Moke.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 21, 2017, 08:40:26 AM
MPlayle, you OK?

San Antonio area got hit by 6 tornados yesterday......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 22, 2017, 07:53:08 AM
Sorry for the delay responding - been without access.

We are okay.  My mother's condo where I've been staying to care for her did get hit by one of the tornadoes.  She was already at the hospital for a separate issue.  My oldest brother and I were inside the unit when it got hit.  We are okay, but the building sustained structural damage - our unit is top floor and lost part of the roof.

We are in "disaster recovery" mode and in good shape as I had begun to move into a new apartment meant to accommodate caring for my mom.  She will be returning "home" to the new apartment when she gets discharged from the hospital.

Plans for the Spring Drive are still a "Go".  We have a reservation at the Cowboy Steakhouse for dinner on Wednesday, March 15th.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 22, 2017, 08:30:25 AM
Glad to know everyone is OK!

Do they still allow smoking in the restaurants in Texas, especially outside the main big cities?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 22, 2017, 09:34:24 AM
The smoking policies vary.  Many restaurants are now non-smoking.  The bar area of the Cowboy still permits smoking.  I can ask about the dining area if you would like.  I don't recall seeing people smoking in the dining areas of the Cowboy.

I know that in San Antonio, all restaurants and bars are non-smoking inside.  Many bars now have outside covered patios for the smoking areas.  That was proscribed by city ordinances.  I don't know if there are specific state laws about it.  Being a non-smoker, I only paid scant attention to the issue when the city ordinances were passed a number of years ago.



Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 22, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
When we do our classic Mini runs in southern Missouri and northern Arkansas, I'm always surprised when I walk into a restaurant in one of the small towns and find people smoking inside......I've gotten so used to ours being smoke free.

Just curious, it is what it is when you travel......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 22, 2017, 03:05:04 PM
Many of the restaurants in the cities and larger towns around here have gone over to "smoke-free".  San Antonio and some other cities have passed ordinances for bars and restaurants to be primarily "smoke-free" - smoking allowed only on designated outside patios.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on February 22, 2017, 06:42:32 PM
Glad you're ok.

Regarding smoke, I actually get a bit asthmatic around it.  I'll be the guy gasping for air mid sentence like I'm choking on water.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on February 26, 2017, 04:32:10 PM
Getting closer!    Just two weeks out now.    I'm getting excited. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on February 26, 2017, 04:40:17 PM
I'm getting anxious as well, but for other reasons.  I've been moving apartments, dealing with mom having a health crisis and mom's condo having been hit by a tornado.

Things are looking up a bit.  My oldest brother is here to assist.  The move is almost fully done - tool sets and the Moke in the garage are all that is left to move.  My middle brother has the POA for mom's business interests (I have the medical) and so he gets to deal with the damage issues from the tornado.

We have a tentative reservation for dinner at the Cowboy on Wednesday after the long drive.



Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on February 28, 2017, 04:15:21 PM
The weather right now is looking pretty sweet for our trip......mid 70's to low 80's and very little chance of rain!   4.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on February 28, 2017, 04:20:18 PM
To make this trip even more fun on March 6 I will be in Steamboat Springs CO. Taking my daughter to a winter driving school on ice for a day. Of course I am taking the course too.

Then back home for a few days and head for Texas.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 01, 2017, 09:33:20 AM
Willie_B, do you have a route planned?

Justin is in Kilgore and Bruce is in Plano, both are on your way, right? Maybe you guys could hook up and caravan together?

Bruce and I were talking about maybe meeting up along the way with our group of 4 from KC.....

Right now our plan is to go I-35 to OKC, then I-44 to Wichita Falls, overnight there, then straight south on B roads to Kerrville, and maybe meeting up with Bruce in Brownwood for the last part of the run.

Edit: Oops, just looked at the map, looks like you'll be on I-10, not I-20?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 01, 2017, 09:58:23 AM
You guys are going to get a lot of guackers with you pulling 4 minis down the freeway. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 01, 2017, 10:10:30 AM
Some of us are towing, some are driving....Justin, Don and Dan for sure.....

You have to be used to that with Minis!  ;D

When I drove Buzz back from Baltimore I was only running 60-65 mph all the way on I-70, (one of the reasons I changed the diff ratio) and everybody passed me, even the trucks, and someone was always pulling up and trying to get my attention so they could take a pic or give me a thumbs up - you get used to it after a while.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 01, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
I will be coming the southern route by way of I-10. So probably won't see anyone else along the way.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 01, 2017, 02:11:38 PM
Don't forget to air up your spare tires, guys!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on March 02, 2017, 08:52:27 AM
Quote from: MiniDave on March 01, 2017, 09:33:20 AM

Justin is in Kilgore and Bruce is in Plano, both are on your way, right? Maybe you guys could hook up and caravan together?




For me Kerreville is 6hrs to the SW. Pretty much a straight line to Austin, then up and over. Meeting up with Bruce would be cool, but add several hours.
Once you hit Texas you will remember how BIG our Great State is. Distance measured in minutes(time), not miles.

See you guys soon. Battling our Seasonal Pine Pollen this time of year. Everything takes a lovely color of yellow. Buzz hides it well.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 02, 2017, 09:22:31 AM
Yep, we get a different version of tree pollen, a lovely shade of lime green...... :(

It will be great to see you and Buzz, looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 02, 2017, 06:15:39 PM
Dave, what is your e.t.a. for wichita falls?  It's probably the closest y'all will be to the metromess and may try to swing up there to see all the cars.  My wife has become more mini obsessed than me, didn't think that was possible.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 02, 2017, 06:51:03 PM
Hard to say, but late afternoon or early evening......if you want to PM me your cell phone I can give you a call mid-day and give an approximate time.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 05, 2017, 06:31:58 PM
Looking at the extended weather forecast for Kerrville and things look good so far - mid-to-upper 70's and only 10% chance of rain a couple of days.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 05, 2017, 07:03:37 PM
Our travel plans are in flux at the moment gr8kornholio, but we may be going thru Dallas instead......I'll have to let you know .
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 06, 2017, 06:19:56 PM
Unfortunately John Styers and Susan McKenzie will have to miss the  event.....

Don
Dave
Bruce
Justin
Willie B
Dan
MPlayle

will be our contingent.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 06, 2017, 07:53:24 PM
Dave,

Thanks for the update.

I have been going through some very stressful times - mom's health took another serious downturn today.  The last couple of weeks (mom's previous health crisis and then a tornado hitting her condo) have really stressed family relations.

All said, I am still planning to attend.  A friend and I are going to try to connect tomorrow to finish up the last bits preparing the Moke.

It will be my first "vacation" in something like 12 years and right now I really need it.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 06, 2017, 08:20:06 PM
I think John really could too, but needs must........
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 07, 2017, 08:21:29 AM
We had some fierce storms blow thru last night, but today is clear, sunny and cool. I have a few days to catch up on honey-do's before we head south but I am ready for a road trip!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 07, 2017, 07:59:04 PM
I'll be getting in Tuesday evening/night so will miss that day of driving. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 07, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
Just got back from the Bridgestone Winter Driving School. Fun time. Bit windy all day and the high was 24. Now I am more than ready for Texas temps.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 08, 2017, 06:06:08 AM
Wow, that looks cold!

Did you/she learn anything about winter driving?

Good that they used a 4wd car, those are what I see in the ditch the most when we get our first snow/sleet/ice storm of the winter.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 08, 2017, 06:40:19 AM
I did learn a lot. The course was not flat, it followed the terrain so you get to slide and slither around up and down hill corners and even off camber. Get to learn about the dynamics of a sliding vehicle and what to do correct that. The main reason I went was to take my daughter so she knows what to do in slippery conditions instead of slam on the brakes, let go of the steering wheel and scream.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 08, 2017, 06:42:38 AM
Had the same issue in Colorado Springs, it was always the 4x4s in the ditch.  Not sure if it was the over confidence of being able to go, but when you hit the brakes you slide like everyone else, or I've heard they can be tricky becuase when you release the gas all 4 wheels and quickly change speed, inducing a slide.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 08, 2017, 07:25:46 AM
Other than being 4wd the 4runners sit higher so the weight transfer is more pronounced so you feel what is happening and learn from it. Some of my slides were way out of shape and still recovered from it. BUT there were a few times I was much too fast and that did not end well. Sure was fun. They also used Camrys for just the front wheel drive. They have them all wired so you can turn off all the driver aids like ABS and traction control.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 08, 2017, 12:42:10 PM
Checked the extended weather forecasts: one site shows rain chances creeping in for Wednesday/Thursday, the other does not.

I continue to hold out hope for attending the full week.  My mom's situation has been in a great deal of flux.  I may have to back out at the last minute in order to attend to medical requirements for her.  If so, I will take time to run out Monday evening and pass along all of the drive information to someone.

I will keep folks posted as I know more on timing.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 08, 2017, 01:16:19 PM
You have to take care  of family first, don't worry about us.....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 08, 2017, 01:32:56 PM
Doing the drive event is my "carrot" to keep me going through these recent crises.

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/Ie2uP.gif)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 08, 2017, 02:00:52 PM
We'll see you there then!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 09, 2017, 08:18:01 AM
Forecast for KC -

Thursday - Sunny, high 67*
Friday - Sunny, high 43*
Sat -Snow and below freezing temps
Sunday - Sunny and 40's

I'll be glad to get to some sunny warm Texas weather!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 09, 2017, 08:33:03 AM
Next week's forecasts for Kerrville: Lows in the upper 40's, highs in the mid-to-upper 70's, partly cloudy most of the week.  One site still shows no rain chances all week, the other shows only 10% through Wednesday, 20% Thursday and 40% Friday.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 09, 2017, 08:42:43 AM
We're expecting rain on Saturday but clearing up on Sunday here in the Dallas area.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 09, 2017, 02:08:24 PM
Bad news for me.  My 2016 MINI Clubman (the tow vehicle) just broke down with a "Drivetrain Malfunction".

MINI roadside assistance thinks it may be a fuel pump failure.  Car has to be towed to the dealership - 2 hour wait for a 2 mile tow.  I am not going to be hopeful that it will be repaired in time for the event.

It looks like I am destined to miss the event after all.  I have my mom's car I can use as a backup for getting the drive information to folks Monday evening.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 09, 2017, 02:14:12 PM
You guys and your tow vehicles.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 09, 2017, 02:21:10 PM
Quote from: MPlayle on March 09, 2017, 02:08:24 PM

It looks like I am destined to miss the event after all.  I have my mom's car I can use as a backup for getting the drive information to folks Monday evening.

I can stop by on my way thru San Antonio if it would help. At least to pick up the wheels maybe.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 09, 2017, 02:26:56 PM
Well, I did just talk to Dave and he asked if I thought I could just drive the Moke to the event.

With everything going on with my mom's health I am going to still have to "play it by ear" and see how things work out.

If nothing else, I will use mom's car to drive up Monday evening and hand over the drive route information.

Life sure seems against me right now.

Willie_B:  That may be an option as well.  Send me a voice contact number (my phone is voice only - no texts).


Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 09, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Houston, we have a ......erm, San Antonio we have a problem!

They're calling for 3-5 inches of snow here on Saturday......we may not be able to get out of town on Sunday.

All we can do is wait and see what happens, but sometimes we do get dumped on in March.

We got this last year....

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1779940_10201890996740518_1025077746_n.jpg?oh=8191b3f4df6a4dedf4aa3499bffb0d22&oe=5925A3A9)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1654184_10201891006180754_664705353_n.jpg?oh=7477d600191cdd052069a7b1e008e8d9&oe=593624A0)
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 09, 2017, 08:17:00 PM
Sending all of y'all positive, warming, healing thoughts and prayers.  I'm excited about this trip coming of well and maybe a annual or every other year thing.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 09, 2017, 09:14:41 PM
It seems I may not be the only one with bad luck.  Unfortunately, mine does not seem to want to end.

My mom is scheduled for surgery tomorrow afternoon.  I have tried to hold out for attending the event as long as I could, but I am finally going to have to give up and withdraw to be there for mom as she goes through recovery.

Willie_B has indicated he will be passing through San Antonio on his way to the event (as well as back home).  Since he is also buying my old MiniLites, I will plan on meeting him on his way through and pass along the route guide for whomever becomes the lead car for the drives.

I had really wanted to meet up with you guys in person.  Perhaps another adventure.  I greatly appreciate all the support you've given.

I will keep folks posted on what the "drivetrain malfunction" turns out to be as well as how my mom does in the coming days.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 10, 2017, 05:17:14 AM
Quote from: MiniDave on March 09, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Houston, we have a ......erm, San Antonio we have a problem!

They're calling for 3-5 inches of snow here on Saturday......we may not be able to get out of town on Sunday.

Sounds like you need to leave town Friday.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 07:54:27 AM
We're trying to work that out actually, but Don has business commitments today.....if we can we may head at least a couple hours south late this afternoon, from there it will just be raining.

OTOH, I've seen them forecast these storms and have them amount to nothing.....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 10, 2017, 08:07:54 AM
Head out early Saturday before there is much buildup?

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 11:21:20 AM
Don and I have decided to get the heck out of Dodge before the storm hits, so we're headed south late this afternoon....Don had business to finish up so we hope to be on the road by 3 pm. We're hoping to get to Bartlesville, OK tonight, that will be south of the snow line but we'll probably have to drive thru rain all day tomorrow....still better than snow, slush and ice....and salt!

that will give us an extra day in Kerrville, but that's OK with me!  77.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 10, 2017, 12:06:11 PM
Willie_B will be picking up his wheels and the drive route information on his way through San Antonio Monday afternoon.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 12:10:00 PM
Loaded up and ready to head south as soon as Don gets here in the Pup.

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Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 10, 2017, 12:20:32 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 10, 2017, 03:34:55 PM
What say we all meet in the lobby at 9am Tuesday morning? Unless that is too early.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 10, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
Well, I had to call the dealership to find out about my 2016 Clubman's "Drivetrain Malfunction" as they did not call me like they said they would.

It seems the fuel pump died.  They had to order a replacement, which will not arrive until Tuesday or Wednesday.  So I won't get the car back until late next week at best.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 10, 2017, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: Willie_B on March 10, 2017, 03:34:55 PM
What say we all meet in the lobby at 9am Tuesday morning? Unless that is too early.
I don't think that will be too early  With the change in travel plans due the anticipated snowfall in KC, Dave, Don, and I will likely arrive in Kerrville late Sunday.  So we'll be chillin' for a while, and probably really looking forward to Tuesday. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 10, 2017, 06:42:54 PM
Y'all will just have to do some good exploring on Monday.  I'm excited for lots of pics.  Anyone have a go pro w/ a mount?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 07:52:39 PM
I have a Garmin Dashcam, I plan to get at least some video while we're out crusin.....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: MPlayle on March 10, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
Well, I had to call the dealership to find out about my 2016 Clubman's "Drivetrain Malfunction" as they did not call me like they said they would.

It seems the fuel pump died.  They had to order a replacement, which will not arrive until Tuesday or Wednesday.  So I won't get the car back until late next week at best.

Didn't they give you a loaner? Our dealership provides loaners to any service customer, let alone someone who buys there....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 10, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
Loaner  :D  That was one of the advertised perks when I bought my 07 S, serviced 3 times while I owned it and all I ever got were excuses as to why they didn't have a loaner and a sorry ass selection of cars from Enterprise rent a turd.  One time they actually tried to give me a Hyundia Accent!!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 08:06:12 PM
wow, when I had my 09 Clubby in on Monday they gave me a 2016 Countryguy S.....which I hated! Can not see out the back window on those things!

But it was a nice new car with a full tank of gas for me to use however I needed it.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 08:36:03 PM
Forgot to say, we're in Bartlesville OK tonight, just north of Dan's shop. The RG towed perfectly with absolutely no issues with either car. Don's Pup ran sweet too, so no worries.....

Tomorrow we'll drop some parts at Dans shop, and maybe visit a friend in Tulsa for a bit, then we'll be headed to BruceK's place to meet up for the drive to Kerrville on Sunday.

So far, so good.......Rose promises pics of the snow tomorrow when she gets up, sometime around 1 pm (she works nights)

I'm glad we left early, we may have some rain to deal with as we leave here, but that's always preferable to dealing with snow!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 10, 2017, 09:44:19 PM
Quote from: MiniDave on March 10, 2017, 07:53:35 PM
Didn't they give you a loaner? Our dealership provides loaners to any service customer, let alone someone who buys there....

Yes, they gave me a loaner - Cooper-S Clubman with different accessories from mine.  Gave it to me with 1/4 tank of gas.  I am not anxious to drive it a lot - not sure if it may have the same potential fuel pump issue mine did.  My mom's car needs driven some anyway (2007 Hyundia Santa Fe with under 39K miles).

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 11, 2017, 11:30:37 AM
Packed, loaded and ready to hook up Sunday morning.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 11, 2017, 11:32:29 AM
I love it!  4.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 11, 2017, 11:43:51 AM
Love the sign!     71.gif

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 11, 2017, 01:22:14 PM
Here's another photo of the Hill Country.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 11, 2017, 01:27:34 PM
And another one.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 11, 2017, 01:30:48 PM
And, as long as I'm at it, just one more.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 11, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
Safe journeys for all!

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 12, 2017, 09:05:44 PM
We made it!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: John Gervais on March 12, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
Awesome!  The cars look like they made it just fine!  4.gif

Is that Buzz on the far left?  New roof rack?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 13, 2017, 05:29:41 AM
Great to see them all lined up.  Was great to meet Dave and Don as they came through the Dallas area.  Hopefully the weather is a little warmer down there for the week. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM
Cheers!

Wish I could have been joining you guys.  Willie_B will be through this afternoon and I will be sending along the drive routes with him.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 13, 2017, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: John Gervais on March 12, 2017, 09:15:21 PM
Awesome!  The cars look like they made it just fine!  4.gif

Is that Buzz on the far left?  New roof rack?

Yep, that's Buzz......same roof rack, cleaned painted and improved by Justin. I never ran it tho, I preferred the "clean" look...

Justin killed a few big bugs on the way down....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 13, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
Today, once the sun came out this afternoon we took the cars to a nearby carwash to get the roadgrime off, then we headed out for a quick run up into the hills - a test run if nothing ese. Happy to report all cars did fine, no bent, broken, overheated or other problems at all! WillieB should be rolling in anytime now and tomorrow we'll head out on our first real run.....

Weather promises to be beautiful all the rest of the week.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 13, 2017, 04:28:25 PM
 77.gif  Guessing Bruce is leaving his shin death bar on the front of his car for the duration.  Everyone be careful!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 13, 2017, 06:00:58 PM
We both left ours on, too much trouble to take it off for just a few days......

WillieB rolled in just after I posted that, he's down at the car wash right now getting his not a wide load cleaned up, he drove it to dinner too.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 13, 2017, 06:37:57 PM
Yours didn't stick out as far as his.  Found the rattle in my car.  The plastic/rubber u-joint coupler on my car is banging the exhaust.  Think it's due to my subframe not being aligned as Bruce noticed at cars and coffee I don't have the tower bolts.  They are currently on order and hopefully will get here asap. 

Love the pics, keep them coming.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 15, 2017, 03:25:17 PM
A little cloudy today.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 15, 2017, 04:08:02 PM
Wish I could have been there to share the roads with you guys.

Sadly, I had to put my mom on hospice level care today.

The tears are hard.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 15, 2017, 05:27:24 PM
These tears are even harder - she passed away this evening.  I was able to be with her as she went.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: John Gervais on March 15, 2017, 05:41:37 PM
I'm very sorry to hear this, but knowing that you cared, tried and were there with her throughout surely meant a lot to her.  My condolences.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 15, 2017, 06:59:16 PM
Sorry to hear this, my condolences to you and your family.  Keep you in thoughts and prayers.

Pictures look great guys, keep them coming as I'm riding with you in my thoughts.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 16, 2017, 06:09:07 AM
Sorry for your loss Michael.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 16, 2017, 06:22:39 AM
Condolences Michael.  Sorry for your loss. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: towjoe on March 16, 2017, 07:40:18 AM
Sorry to hear that Mike.
Now the memories will help you.
Regards
towjoe
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 16, 2017, 10:21:40 AM
Regroup time.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 16, 2017, 10:25:58 AM
Blue bonnets are blooming.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on March 16, 2017, 03:44:39 PM
Michael,

With my deepest sympathies on the loss of your Mother. Blessings to her, you, and your loved ones.

Thank you for organizing this adventure. We have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. Look forward to meeting you in the future.

Take care,

Justin and Buzz
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Buzz Clubman on March 16, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
Some from today
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 16, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
More from today.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 16, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Here's that last one rotated.  Hope you and the Mrs. have fun in San Antonio, maybe we'll see you at the Alamo!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 16, 2017, 06:09:02 PM
If any of you "staying over" in San Antonio into the weekend wish to meet, call me (210-254-7341).

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 16, 2017, 07:33:45 PM
Don, Bruce and I are headed north in the early am, we'll see you the next time!

Thanks for putting this together Michael, we all had a terrific time - thanks to you!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 17, 2017, 05:17:48 AM
Safe travels for everyone headed home.  Loving the pictures.   71.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 17, 2017, 07:58:18 AM
Another pic I had.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 17, 2017, 07:55:11 PM
Don, Bruce, Justin and I headed out about 8 am, it was drizzly but at least not raining....

Justin was the first to drop out of our little group, heading for home in East Texas.....the three amigos carried on to Stephenville, where we found yet another BBQ place, and this one turned out to be even better than the one in Llano!

At that Point Bruce headed east leaving Don and me to carry on....however not too far up the road Don's Pup sputtered to a halt, sounding like it was out of fuel. Even tho the gas gauge showed 3/4, it clearly was much lower than that. But after sitting for a few minutes it popped off, so we high-tailed it to the closest gas station - which was a bit iffy looking, so he only added 2 gallons, enough to get us to the next biggish town. We only made it another 12 miles or so before it died again.

After sitting for just a few minutes the Pup roared into life again and we set off yet again.....20 miles later, well you know the drill by now.

We were on I-44 now when we spied a likely exit, where it died at the bottom off the off ramp. We did get it going again, and drove a couple of miles to a Valero station where we topped up and just for good measure I added a bottle of Heet....remembering Brad's experience in Omaha.

We won't know fur sure till we get going tomorrow but I'm encouraged by the fact that it did 80 miles after that without a sputter!

We found lodging at a newly built Hampton Inn on the east side of OKC, tomorrow we'll stop by Dan's shop to pick up the reamer, then onward home....fingers crossed!

One interesting note, this Hampton has a free electric car recharging station!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 18, 2017, 03:57:48 AM
I've heard hard 8 is good BBQ.  Funny thing is, one of the best rated BBQ places is just north of me in McKinney.  Hutchins BBQ and I still haven't made it there. 

A little ironic the "reliable" Honda powered mini was giving you issues.  Glad to hear sounds like the problem may have been solved.  Safe travels the rest of the way home. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 18, 2017, 02:14:29 PM
Wasn't the car's fault, he clearly got a slug of bad gas......the bottle of Heet did the trick, it drove the rest of the way home without a single hiccup.

The BlueBonnets were coming out.......
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 18, 2017, 06:30:41 PM
Gotta love the poor gas around this country.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 18, 2017, 06:34:46 PM
Interesting that Don was the only one that got some bad gas.

Was there a stop where he was the only one to fill up?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 19, 2017, 06:06:00 PM
For anyone that wants to know, the last milepost marker on I-10 leaving Texas is number 880. That is a long way from side to side.

Dinner when I stopped for the night was 2 pounds of crawfish.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 19, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
Brad I think I spotted you and the misses at the riverwalk in San Antonio.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 20, 2017, 12:33:55 AM
Could be, went there after the Alamo.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 21, 2017, 08:01:57 PM
Sharing some pix...

This first one was taken when some of us arrived a day earlier than originally planned and visited a German restaurant in Fredericksburg.  (Great food!)
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 21, 2017, 08:06:03 PM
and some more...
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 22, 2017, 05:02:02 AM
Awesome pictures.  4.gif  Looks like a lot of fun.  71.gif
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 22, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
It was a fun time.  Really enjoyed seeing everyone and meeting a couple new faces.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 24, 2017, 09:45:57 AM
We spotted this old Dodge pickup at one of our early stops.

I'm kinda fond of it.  In fact, I find myself really lichen it.   :)


(I'll see myself out...)

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 24, 2017, 09:48:13 AM
Hey, I know there were some videos and cool drone photos taken during the Spring Drive. 

When can we see them?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 24, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
Don will get to his this weekend, and I'm hoping to get mine posted over the weekend too.....the sound is terrible on mine due to the wind noise, I'm going to have to find a way to shield the mic - so just turn the sound down and it's not too bad.

I had a lot of hours of vid to go thru to find the "good" parts, then it's a matter of learning how to edit them into one clip that's not too long and boring.

Right now I'm building Dan's engine.

Because I made the mistake of going to Magnolia Pearl's website to show my wife, I now have their ad popping up on every webpage, FaceTube or anything else I open! Except RM thank god!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 24, 2017, 11:12:00 AM
Clear your browser cache, history, and cookies and you may likely stop getting all the ads popping up on everything.

I keep my browser (Firefox) set to clear all of those every time I close the browser.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: 94touring on March 24, 2017, 11:39:15 AM
I'm ad free!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: gr8kornholio on March 24, 2017, 03:36:36 PM
That's a really cool looking truck, project time? 

Excited now for the weekend to see the videos and pictures.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 24, 2017, 04:20:34 PM
Quote from: gr8kornholio on March 24, 2017, 03:36:36 PM
That's a really cool looking truck, project time? 

Oh gosh no. That truck is a prop, part of an elaborate set piece boutique designed resemble an old country farmhouse (or a barn) and it was done pretty convincingly.   It's all designed to sell cheap rags from India to wealthy women.   I know that might sound harsh and judgmental, but it is actually pretty accurate.   The farm building was so intriguing and cool looking that we stopped by to check it out – thinking it was a brewpub or possibly a restaurant.   We had no idea it was some type of ultra high-end clothing store located isolated out in a rural area (but near wineries).  They actually take raggedy-looking clothes cheaply made in India and sell them for $400, $500, $600 and more.  Don described the fashion style as "Stevie Nicks meets Little House on the Prairie" which is wonderfully accurate.   The Dodge truck and some other ancient trucks are parked around the place to help provide atmosphere.   I'm sure they're worth more to the store in the current dilapidated condition then they'd ever be as restored vehicles.    Google Magnolia Pearl to see more.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on March 24, 2017, 04:54:20 PM
Google Magnolia Pearl to see more.

Only if you want to see their ads on every web page you open from here on!  ::)
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 24, 2017, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: MiniDave on March 24, 2017, 04:54:20 PM
Google Magnolia Pearl to see more.

Only if you want to see their ads on every web page you open from here on!  ::)

Geez, you're getting a double whammy with those Magnolia Pearl fashion popup ads plus your woman's magazine subscriptions. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on March 25, 2017, 02:26:26 PM
I just received an envelope from Brad (Willie_B) in the mail today.

To all who signed what was inside: my most profound thanks!

I am glad you all enjoyed the routes.  I wish I could have been there as well, but life said otherwise.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on March 25, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
Michael, we missed you, and we really appreciated the ground work you did in setting everything up.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on March 25, 2017, 03:50:08 PM
Thank you again for all your effort that made a very fun event.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on April 01, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
Has any of the rumored video been edited and posted anywhere for viewing?

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on April 02, 2017, 11:24:35 AM
Quote from: MPlayle on April 01, 2017, 05:13:37 PM
Has any of the rumored video been edited and posted anywhere for viewing?

Well, this is raw video from my car, not edited.  Roads start getting twisty around the 7:30 mark.  And you really can't see all the Minis together until the end. 

I think Dave will have better stuff to share.

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on April 02, 2017, 11:31:14 AM
On a sad note, that car crash that's been in the national news the past several days concerning the pickup that hit the church bus in Texas killing 13 people, happened near the town of Leakey, only about 2 miles south of the gas station we stopped at several times there.   
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on April 02, 2017, 12:50:12 PM
My clips are only three minutes long, so I have to go thru each one and try to find the 'interesting" ones then stitch them together into something worth watching. I'll get there.....

One thing kinda fun, my Garmin includes the GPS coordinates and speed on the video, so I can see exactly where we were when that clip was filmed.

I'm trying to find the steep roller coaster part - anyone remember exactly which road and where that was?
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on April 02, 2017, 01:11:21 PM
South Ranch Road 335 going south from road 41 to Camp Wood.
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on April 02, 2017, 01:16:09 PM
Brad beat me to it.  Yes, it's 335 south from 41. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MPlayle on April 02, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
That is the one section I have not driven before.   50.gif

Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on July 26, 2017, 11:18:02 AM
I don't know how but somehow I missed the email Don sent months ago with the links to his pics of our trip, but I'm going to post a few of my faves.....
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: MiniDave on July 26, 2017, 11:20:21 AM
Couple more......anyone who was on the trip and didn't get the link email him at Donipock@gmail.com
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: BruceK on July 26, 2017, 07:03:05 PM
Excellent!    That trip was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed hanging out with everyone. Great photos- so cool to see us from the air. 
Title: Re: Definite - "Spring Drive" in Texas Hill Country
Post by: Willie_B on July 26, 2017, 07:42:15 PM
The first two you posted are my some of my favorites also. The first is now my computer screen wallpaper.
It was hard not to have great photos it was all so wonderful.


Hope Cuba will as much fun.